Looking for something like Mdma in herbals!?

[Djones]

I've had some nice experiences with Mdma and recently a real chill friday night with some Xtc.
But is there anything in a natural/herbal substance that will give me similar results?

I've tried Kratom last weekend, supposedly to be one of the strongest chill-feeling herbs, but it wasn't what I expected it to be.

I know there are stronger herbal substances like salvia, Mushrooms and stuff, but this is all Hallucinogen, and this is not what I seek.

So if you have anything you could suggest me, that be great!

Thanks in advance.

 

[DevXavier]

From what I've seen/tried/heard there is absolutely nothing in smartshops that comes even close to MDMA.

Methylone was the only thing, until it became illegal.

 

[Djones]

So there's absolutely noting that comes close to that Euphoric drugged out feeling of Mdma in herbal form!?

 

[Guest]

Nope, sorry
Therz nuttin' like da real thang

 

[Siq]

Yeah this may sound cliché or idylic, but yes, it's true .. nothing like true and pure MDMA

 

[SubstanceD]

Most "E" type 'herbal' either contain piperazines or a blend of things that wouldn't be anything like MDMA. Kratom is moe like opium than MDMA. (What's so great about MDMA anyway?)

 

[Djones]

Tried Methylone this weekend, came in a small bottle labeled as Apk.
Paid 15 Euros for it, but was very nice!

 

[Djones]

Most "E" type 'herbal' either contain piperazines or a blend of things that wouldn't be anything like MDMA. Kratom is moe like opium than MDMA. (What's so great about MDMA anyway?)

If theres anything better than Mdma, I'd sure like to know!

 

[Guest]

Acid, shrooms or DMT

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Yes there is something near like MDMA. Ephedrine
Yes I know that many will say that ephedra is speed like, but it is also euphoricly wich is similar for todays E (I presume that Djones doesnt take pure form of MDMA and he is just talking bout ecstasy.)

 

[Djones]

Yes there is something near like MDMA. Ephedrine
Yes I know that many will say that ephedra is speed like, but it is also euphoricly wich is similar for todays E (I presume that Djones doesnt take pure form of MDMA and he is just talking bout ecstasy.)

No I'm talking about that crystal powder stuff, that's Mdma right!?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

No I'm talking about that crystal powder stuff, that's Mdma right!?[/quote]

Its can be even crystal meth. Did you have high euphoria and energy or euphoria with high desire for love and contact with other gender with some funny hallucinations.

 

[SolidSerpent]

Tried Methylone this weekend, came in a small bottle labeled as Apk.
Paid 15 Euros for it, but was very nice!

Methylone gives pretty much the same high as MDMA does, IMO. However, Methylone is more "speedy". I feel really worn out after I use it, but it's impossible for me to get some sleep.

 

[petfles]

It is a psychedelic but Baby woodrose can give you a high similiar to mdma. The only bad part is you will not able to dance, just like you've taken too much mdma. I enjoy it though because of the love-peace-dreamy feeling. The only other that came close was a combination of ephedra, alcohol and weed.

 

[petfles]

It is a psychedelic but Baby woodrose can give you a high similiar to mdma. The only bad part is you will not able to dance, just like you've taken too much mdma. I enjoy it though because of the love-peace-dreamy feeling. The only other that came close was a combination of ephedra, alcohol and weed.

 

[tryptonaut]

The only other thing that has ever given me a feeling as good as, no, even much better than mdma was a shroom trip on roughly 6-7g dried cubensis. But as you said, it's a psychedelic, and I was tripping alone, the first one or two hours were pretty rough but then came bliss (it was better than anything I could ever imagine, I was totally paralyzed with amazement over how good it was, a two hour long brain and body orgasm would be the best description I can think of...)

So, if you're looking for legal party drugs similar to mdma - no chance!
For me Kratom and alcohol in a combination work pretty well (thai kratom, as much as you can take plus alcohol) but it's in no way as good as real mdma. Forget about ephedrine - it's good for getting some work done, but it's kind of anti-relaxing (even it's a little euphorizing, but not enough)

 

[scamie]

I chewed like 1,5 grams of Kanna/ kauwgoed and had drunk three beers before that. It was a bit like xtc/ mdma