jaguar tripping on ayahuasca

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this video made my day.

i like how the camera focuses on the eyes........ i wonder what's going through his head!

 

[Paracoculi]

Wow....... This video made my day too! I will think about this for a while..
Nice way of waking up, thanks Φιλι

 

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it means philippos... greek for felipe.

look what i found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKNecnrx ... 32_p2.html

see what bees do to their alcoholic workers (!)

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

i like how the camera focuses on the eyes........ i wonder what's going through his head!

Not much I think, or do jaguars not require an MAO inhibitor?

 

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isn't b. caapi the inhibitor?? i don't know but he does not look sober.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

isn't b. caapi the inhibitor?? i don't know but he does not look sober.

I'm not an expert, but it seems he was eating Psychotria viridis or something similar. Definitely not Banisteriopsis caapi bark!

 

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why not? look at the leafs, it's definitely b. caapi>

 

[GOD]

The leaves in the last foto are not P.Viridis so if it hadnt eaten them it didnt have a trip . It would have to eat at least a kilo of the Caapi leaves and 250 gramms of P.Viridis leaves in a short time to get a trip .

The pregnant question is........I wonder how the film was made ?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

why not? look at the leafs, it's definitely b. caapi>

In that case, perhaps the cats do chill out on betacarbolines. I would expect a very subtle effect though.

 

[skoeip]

perhaps (probably) jaguars react completely different to different plants than humans do? so perhaps a jaguar feels a strong (stronger than humans) effect of only caapi?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I don't think so. I think the jaguar is just chilling out like many cats do. If you record enough footage of a jaguar eating leaves while basking in the sun, you can easily edit the shots in such a way that it looks like it's tripping. When the jaguar is looking up into the sky, he might in fact be looking at some birds or monkeys.

 

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well so at least he's high... cool still

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I just listened to a lecture by Jonathan Ott and remembered he had said there are actually more betacarbolines in the leaves than there are in other parts of the vine. And you don't have to cook it either.

 

[GOD]

From what i`ve seen form experiments and personal experience animals react to trips by either acting eraticaly , sitting with their backs to the wall and growling , running away or attacking things that arent there .

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I can imagine.

Here's what the late John Lilly has to say about the way dolphins react:

Q: Did you ever give dolphins LSD ?
J: Oh yes. Six of them. They all had wonderful trips.
Q: How do you know that?
J: Well, they would swim along the surface, then they suddenly turn their beaks down and turn on their sonar. Then I remembered my first trip on LSD, the floor disappeared and bang I fell to the floor because I saw stars through the earth. So what they were doing with their sonar it seems [to me] was like they were apparently seeing right through the earth the way I did.
Q: Any thing else happened?
J: Well Pam, the dolphin, had been traumatized, because she was spear gunned three times in a Flipper movies. She was given to us by Ivan Tors and she always stayed away from humans. When we gave her LSD , she climbed all over us. So LSD is effective.
New Realities - Sex and Drugs with Whales and Dolphins

 

[GOD]

Thank you , allthough thats not proof it does back up what i said .

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I now found this... Some of the dolphins died.

[quote:9dg78dms]It was not until March 1960, with the
opening of Dr. John C. Lilly’s Communication
Research Institute in Nazareth Bay, St.
Thomas, that bottlenose dolphins were
again held locally captive. Eight animals
were brought from Florida to the laboratory
until the Institute closed in 1968. They
were used for experiments on sound mimicry
and the effects of hallucinogenic drugs
(mainly lysergic acid diethylamide or LSD)
on the dolphin brain and its vocalizations.
Lilly (pers. comm.) and Jeffrey and Lilly
(1990) reported a number of irregularities
that occurred in the treatment of these animals,
including animals fearing humans
unless on LSD, two animals dying from
pulmonary infections and injuries from
falling, another dying from internal injuries
and a head concussion after being washed
out on a storm, and five dolphins dying
from what Lilly termed “suicide deaths

 

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Lilly himself said he repented all the stuff they did with the dolphins and i got the idea he felt bad about it. CM, have you listened to sounds recorded from dolphins saying their names? it's on mp3. Lilly said that when he listened to the recordings he finally stopped the tests and called it quits. it was too much for him.

 

[GOD]

Dolphines cant speak ?

 

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well, they mimicked the names. they had to slow down the recordings four times to notice. i can't find the mp3s but i do remember hearing them. it was creepy.