i've got a weird problem...

[GOD]

"but most people seem to suffer no long term damage."

SEEM !!!!!! I have recently read that it does cause long term brain damage .


And the emerald tabletts are total bollocks .

 

[drumcircle]

"but most people seem to suffer no long term damage."

SEEM !!!!!! I have recently read that it does cause long term brain damage .


And the emerald tabletts are total bollocks .

could i possibly have a link to an article please?

and i agree about the emerald tablets.

 

[GOD]

"could i possibly have a link to an article please? "

I cant remember where i read it but it was in the last few days so i must have been following up a post here . I was hoping that someone here knows where it is . If / when i can sleep i will think about it again .

 

[Nomada]

Strangeness is the emanation, by excellence, of the Other.
The transcendental Other an ocre ring, core red, a compass.
Faces look ugly, when you're alone.

 

[GOD]

Now i`ve slept i think i could have been wrong and it wasnt DXM but Ketamine . Sorry . If i can remember where it was i`ll post it .

 

[Guest]

............but you decide which is right. And which is an illusion.

 

[Malaeus]

And the emerald tabletts are total bollocks .

that is rather hurtful. have you even read the whole thing?

i mean im not one to simply go by the book, but it offers some very interesting perspective, whether this book is a work of fiction or not.

 

[gammagoblin]

Now i`ve slept i think i could have been wrong and it wasnt DXM but Ketamine . Sorry . If i can remember where it was i`ll post it .

Do you mean this?

 

[braha_kahn]

And the emerald tabletts are total bollocks .

that is rather hurtful. have you even read the whole thing?

i mean im not one to simply go by the book, but it offers some very interesting perspective, whether this book is a work of fiction or not.

I agree... for me personally of course.

I can understand that most people find it bullocks but for me, it gives interesting perspectives...

 

[GOD]

" have you even read the whole thing? "

Do you eat every lump of dog shit you see to find out its realy dog shit ? It isnt from an atlantean , its not anancient text , it wasnt translated and sumarian godsd didnt create a biogenic experiment . Its wierdo esoteric fantasy bullshit .

Gammagoblin , thanks for the link . I had seen that one to but it wasnt what i was thinking about . I "remember" reading something where one of our heros , someone like shulgin , was talking about physical and mental damage done by ????? I`m not sure if it was ketamine , but i now think it was , or if it was DXM . I know that i read it a few days ago while looking up about those two substances and disasociatives .

 

[braha_kahn]

It isnt from an atlantean , its not anancient text

where did you get that... I thought that it is a well known fact that it has been written by several people throughout history? It's very likely it's origins lies in the middle ages...

and of course it's esoteric fantasy... isn't that what the esoteric is all about? using your brain/fantasy/imagination and trying to get new insights in this manner? I could be wrong but that is what esotericism is for me...

So according to you you can't have genuine insights from a fictional book?

PS: If you ask me you are not a good moderater... The way you engage in discussions is very amateuristic... I'm not saying I would do a better job but you're definitly not a role model... Nothing personal though, just saying my opinion, feel free to disagree of course

 

[GOD]

I`m not a role model , and i`m not suposed to be one . I`m me , nothing more and nothing less . Can you please get on with being you and alow me to be me . And please stop calling me a moderator . What the fuck has that got to do with anything .

I can only say what i have experienced about moderators here and this site . Its diferent from all the other sites i`ve ever been on because there is no hyerachy , no lick my ass because i`m a moderator . People here are equals and can be themselves and say what they want to so long as it stays within limits . The limits being no racism , no sexism , no causing trouble for troubles sake , no adverts , otherwise we can talk about absolutely anything . I have never seen a moderator here or an administrator play power games . This is the first post where i have used the word moderator in conection with me . I`m not a moderator in any other section than in the german one . If i see something objectionable i am suposed to inform an administrator . He then decides what to do . If someone is extremely insulting continualy or starts posting pornos they get a PM warning and if that doesnt work they get banned . Since i`ve been on this forum i think only 2 people have been banned . = Its our forum , we all run it , we regulate ourselves . If someone goes to far someone else tells him / her and it stops . For instance Lion , Psychoid and Meduzz do a good job at that , if they see something they dont like they stand up straight away and say stop and it stops .

"It isnt from an atlantean , its not anancient text "

There are no texts from "Atlanteans" and please prove that it is an ancient text . You said it comes from the middle ages , if there were "Atlanteans" they didnt come from the middle ages but from maybe 2000 years before .

"So according to you you can't have genuine insights from a fictional book? "

I never said that and i dont think that . Fiction is one thing , packing it in wierdo esoteric crap is another . Thats what the scientologists do . Pack a few absolutely normal things and facts in propoganda and then many people start to believe the esoteric fantasy bits are also facts . = con man tactics . Used by people making money and boosting their puny little egos by pushing esoteric fantasys as facts .

"If you ask me you are not a good moderater... The way you engage in discussions is very amateuristic"

What has the way i write got to do with being a moderator ? Why do you keep going on about me being a moderator ? What has that got to do with anything ?

I dont like your style of "comunicating" either but whats it got to do with me ? = Nothing . Please leave me out of your fantasys , please stop projecting things on me and get on with being you .

 

[braha_kahn]

I`m not a role model , and i`m not suposed to be one . I`m me , nothing more and nothing less . Can you please get on with being you and alow me to be me . And please stop calling me a moderator . What the fuck has that got to do with anything .

well under your nickname it says MODERATOR .... and I'm being me, I'm stating my opinions just like you do... what's wrong with that??

I can only say what i have experienced about moderators here and this site . Its diferent from all the other sites i`ve ever been on because there is no hyerachy , no lick my ass because i`m a moderator . People here are equals and can be themselves and say what they want to so long as it stays within limits . The limits being no racism , no sexism , no causing trouble for troubles sake , no adverts , otherwise we can talk about absolutely anything . I have never seen a moderator here or an administrator play power games . This is the first post where i have used the word moderator in conection with me . I`m not a moderator in any other section than in the german one . If i see something objectionable i am suposed to inform an administrator . He then decides what to do . If someone is extremely insulting continualy or starts posting pornos they get a PM warning and if that doesnt work they get banned . Since i`ve been on this forum i think only 2 people have been banned . = Its our forum , we all run it , we regulate ourselves . If someone goes to far someone else tells him / her and it stops . For instance Lion , Psychoid and Meduzz do a good job at that , if they see something they dont like they stand up straight away and say stop and it stops .

very well... I didn't know you were only moderating the german section... thank you for enlightening me on these matters

"It isnt from an atlantean , its not anancient text "

There are no texts from "Atlanteans" and please prove that it is an ancient text . You said it comes from the middle ages , if there were "Atlanteans" they didnt come from the middle ages but from maybe 2000 years before .

I haven't used the word atlantean here... I didn't make the remark it's an atlantean text, I just asked where you got that... I stated that i'ts most likely that those texts come from the middle ages, so more then 500 years old, that's pretty ancient if you ask me...

"So according to you you can't have genuine insights from a fictional book? "

I never said that and i dont think that . Fiction is one thing , packing it in wierdo esoteric crap is another . Thats what the scientologists do . Pack a few absolutely normal things and facts in propoganda and then many people start to believe the esoteric fantasy bits are also facts . = con man tactics . Used by people making money and boosting their puny little egos by pushing esoteric fantasys as facts .

Very well, then that is my mistake and interputated your post wrong... Comparing all texts with scientology tactics is a bad thing imho, perhaps i'm interpretating your post wrongly again... then I apologise

"If you ask me you are not a good moderater... The way you engage in discussions is very amateuristic"

What has the way i write got to do with being a moderator ? Why do you keep going on about me being a moderator ? What has that got to do with anything ?

I dont like your style of "comunicating" either but whats it got to do with me ? = Nothing . Please leave me out of your fantasys , please stop projecting things on me and get on with being you .

I'm not projecting anything nor fantasizing anything, I'm just being me, and me likes to throw out my thoughts/ideas on forums just like you do... Like I said I keep going on about you being a moderator because that's what standing under your nickname... last time I checked moderaters their job is to make sure a discussion goes right... IMHO discussions aren't going right with your moderating but just like I stated before these are my thoughts and it's a common fact that people's thoughts tend to not go a long... > disagreeing about thoughts...

 

[BrainEater]

GOD's favourite accusation seems to be that the someone with whom he is talking in the forum, is supposed to be projecting something in him, when in reality it might be the other way round and/or sometimes he might be right indeed....

just for the info...


peace :weedman:

 

[braha_kahn]

GOD's favourite accusation seems to be that the someone with whom he is talking in the forum, is supposed to be projecting something in him, when in reality it might be the other way round and/or sometimes he might be right indeed....

just for the info...


peace :weedman:

you're here longer then I am so I'll consider your advise thank you

 

[Malaeus]

idk man,
it seems to me that you have a big problem believing that someone not from this time or from this world could have written something to help this planet a long time ago. the information inside this book just doenst seem to fit your definition of existance, you call yourself a psychonaut, however you get oh so defensive trashing every bit of info that could possibly show you that your world isnt all that you thought it was. so sure, maybe this wasnt written by the last atlantean son as he fled from a sinking atlantis at the turn of the world. maybe it was just a collaboration from philosophers and scientists over the course of several thousand years. i mean, look at the bible. that thing has been written, censored, rewritten, etc etc. so many more times than any other religious document in recorded history.


i personally choose to believe that the things in the emerald tablets have every possibility of being true. and i prefer to look at things from that point of view, so maybe you prefer using the bible to center your excuse for existance and i respect whatever your beliefs may be, but please dont go immediatley bashing someone elses beliefs, go learn. go experience.... THEN you may judge.

 

[druglessdouglas]

ive read the "tablets". its modern

 

[Forkbender]

check out the emerald tablets. great read

Yeah, this is a modern forgery. Doesn't mean it's not true and I can't judge that, as I haven't read a letter of it. But doing a google search is enough. If it were an ancient texts it would be probable that there were more translations that just this one.

The Emerald Tablet - singular - (Tabula Smaragdina) does exist and has a history of around 15 centuries, and is probably of Arabic decent, having a big influence on alchemy of the middle ages and the renaissance. It was supposedly written by Hermes Trismegistus, the thrice great Hermes, but it was not uncommon in those days to write under a false name to make your work look more ancient.

 

[braha_kahn]

Another modern esoteric forgery I really enjoyed:
Kybalion

 

[Malaeus]

how can any of you call yourselves psychonauts. rather ridiculous that someone who has supposed to delve into the greatest depths of the one conciousness can ignorantly place all other information that you do not understand as "bullshit" it is rather hurtful and very very annoying, i am a practitioner of "esoteric bullshit" as you so kindly put. i have seen the real world results of this practice both in a spiritual sense, and in an external physical world sense. the one gift of "god" in every religion was free will... so dont you think theres something more to it?

whatever, i had hoped that this forum was really for psychonauts. not a majority of drug users talking about how pretty stuff is. this was supposed to be a place for those who enjoy examining their own conciousness and that of this realm.

it seems i was wrong.