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tudy

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3 months ago i went to ibiza... i tryied there a killah bomb for the 1st tine 0.5 cocaine and 0.5 mdma crystalis snorted...i can't get myself together since then.. i can't think right i have problems with my memory my conciens with my toughts my power of concentrate i have problems comunicating... i'm aerian all the time ..please help me and tell me what should i do
 
Fork's Secret Detox:

Rest well, eat healthy, don't use any drug (including alcohol/nicotine/weed/other forms of selfmedication) except for vitamin supplements and possible some 5-HTP, drink 3 liters of water a day, get active, take up a sport or a meditative martial art like tai chi, get a massage every now and then and DON'T blame it on Ibiza (or the drugs, for that matter).

Get well soon!

Fork.
 
Are you sure thats what you had?

How about going to your doctor, Trying memory and Concentration exercise's and Staying away from Cocaine and MDMA?

What have you done so far to improve your current situation?
 
OWND!
 
Another tip: MDMA and coke are a very bad mix, never do it again :)
 
you need a long rest. dont party untill you feel totally better. you will recover
 
i'm on antydrepessive now ... should i go to a neurolog or smth ? i can't focus at anything i think i'm feal really cooked since then ... i don't do drugs for about 2 months and my mind is really blowed away :( i'm going to get smthg and i end up bringing another thing, anxiety, sometimes fever, i don't talk so much as before, i have moments when i don't know why i'm there etc..
 
tudy a dit:
i'm on antydrepessive now ... should i go to a neurolog or smth ? i can't focus at anything i think i'm feal really cooked since then ... i don't do drugs for about 2 months and my mind is really blowed away :( i'm going to get smthg and i end up bringing another thing, anxiety, sometimes fever, i don't talk so much as before, i have moments when i don't know why i'm there etc..

I think that the drugs you toke are not the reason of you problems. Maybe the drugs triggered something in your mind, why you became more conscious of certain problems in you life. I think you really need to look for professional help, or try to solve these problems at your own. But the most important thing you don't need to do, is using drugs. I don't thing you need to worry about brain damage etc, but worry about you psychological condition. So, pull yourself to gather, and go find some help....
 
^If you take .5g of coke and .5g of mdma, I think there is serious risk of disturbing the serotonin balance and since serotonin is one of the essential neurotransmitters, in this case the problems might be a reaction to the drugs.

@tudy
I'm not a fan of antidepressants and some of the symptoms you described can be related to those, but I wouldn't suggest you stop using them immediately. Were they prescribed by a psychiatrist or an M.D.? And what kind are you taking? Does anyone know how SSRI's work on a serotonin-depleted brain for example?

I think it is important for you to try to be conscious about yourself, look at what you eat, pay attention to your intentions, as hard as it may be. Like I said before, eat healthy, don't do any drugs, etc. It may take a while before you are back to the normal tudy, so prepare for that. There is no reason why you shouldn't return to normal though, so have that in your mind as well.

BTW: how was the high?
 
well i'm going to a shrink now .. i told him about my problems and he doesn't think it's because of that...since then i lost everything in my life and all i want is to start over like a normal teenager...but as i told u i have very big problems since then i'm not so comunicative,i don't understand simple things, i'm watching tv and i don't understand all the stuff,i can't read,problems with my memory,with my power of concentrate sry for all these posts but these things really scared me and i don't know who to talk to:( and i'm scared ... what doctor should i go to ? please help me:(
 
the high was great i can't forget that night tiesto @ privilege i felt like fucking god :D but as i told u before i don't sugest trying this combo .. or maybe try it in lower quantity i snorted it in 5 hours but i don't think it was really 0.5-0.5 much more like 1/2 heartie pill-0.25mdma crystals-0.25cocaine all mixed 2gether and putted in my sniffer..now i don't use drugs since 2 months and as i told before i don't have anything in my life i lost everything my friends my gf..now i'm on antydepressive presribed by my psihiatric efectin er 150mg and rispolept 4mg.. these symptoms were before i starting taking them...maybe u can give more advices of what should i do or give me an ID coz here in romania drugs specialist don't exist and i'm totally freaked out...i eath healthy i sleep well i' smoke like 2 packets of cigarettes i don't do alcohol and drugs no more for 2 moths and now and i still have these fucking simpotms that became a real trouble...i'm starting to think i'm retarded :(i don't know how the fuck should i start a new life with these problems
 
why do you exclude cigarettes when you say you haven't done drugs? you have, it's called nicotine.
 
???????? a dit:
why do you exclude cigarettes when you say you haven't done drugs? you have, it's called nicotine.

This doesn't really matter to him right now, does he? A fact is that he feels his self terribly fucked up, and he really is screaming for someone to help him. And he is asking for some advice great advice.........:?

tudy a dit:
now i don't use drugs since 2 months and as i told before i don't have anything in my life i lost everything my friends my gf..now i'm on antydepressive presribed by my psihiatric efectin er 150mg and rispolept 4mg.. these symptoms were before i starting taking them...maybe u can give more advices of what should i do or give me an ID coz here in romania drugs specialist don't exist and i'm totally freaked out...i eath healthy i sleep well i' smoke like 2 packets of cigarettes i don't do alcohol and drugs no more for 2 moths and now and i still have these fucking simpotms that became a real trouble...i'm starting to think i'm retarded Sadi don't know how the fuck should i start a new life with these problems

So you already visiting a psychiatrist? I think you need to have a good conversation with this psychiatrist you have. If you don't have a psychiatrist, find one! Your telling that your still a teenager, and this reminded me of times when i was a little younger. I was i think 16 years old, i already had been going to hell of a life, but beside that i started notice some problems when i became 16, and since then i started to develop/notice more and more psychological problems, i was really confused about everything around me. Well i try to keep it short. But as the years did past by, i kept myself strong from falling away. Till that age i really never had used any drugs. To be honest, i was against it. I thought it would make you stupid, so it became easy for governments to make us psychological ill and to do with us whatever they wanted to. But i always had said that if i was going to use a drug. I wanted to use some shrooms. Because i just wanted to know what it was like, to have a hallucination. So when i became 18 years, i took some mushrooms. And since then everything starting to fall down. Really, it was like a storm of shit hitting me right in the face. I became really depressed, my parents and teachers seem to have lied right in my face. Everything seemed to be up side down. i thought that they just wanted to turn me into a zombie.

My perspective of life suddenly started to change from one moment on the other moment. The experience of the shrooms was beside a little panic, not really difficult. I even found it really interesting. But the days and moments of this reality shift that did occur. Some problems started to exist and i finally got depressed. I was really amazingly confused about everything, and i lost my concentration also. I could not get the things done anymore, that where asked from me to do. I visited a psychiatrist, but i did not trusted this guy. I realised that they would probably manipulate and try to make me a zombie. So i finally started to focus my self on psychology books etc. I started slowly to discover a new world, a world which i never had seen before. And it started to manifest right in front of me. Finally after to years i was fully cured, and realised that the mushrooms i ate had opened a door to a lot of psychological problems that did already exist, but i always had ignored them.

What i did, was reading a lot of psychology books and books about spiritual stuff. I try'd to reconstruct a new world view, one wich i could live with in peace. I started to realise a sort of dualisme. Everything has his opposition you know, and i realised that all these problems had to exist. What's above is also below... Finally i came safely back to earth, yeah i do have a concentration disorder, which makes it hard for me to keep my attention on everything that i don't really like. Even if i like it, things still can go wrong. I am working on that i right now, i think it has something to do with my food pattern. But the most important thing of this all, is that you finally come back to reality. Don't be afraid, just let the emotion passing by, but feel them instead of ignoring them. Don't think for a moment, but just feel the pain! Breath deep and feel that it's just a emotion. Actually that`s all there is, just an emotion. Ride it, as if your in a roller-coaster. Accept them for what they are. Don't blame the world, don't blame yourself. All that is happening to you right now, is just there to teach you a lesson. Finally it would make you stronger, really believe me. I've been there. But you really need try focus on what you want in live, this could finally change your thought patterns of life.

MDMA is a psychedelic that squeezes out a lot of your serotonine receptors in your brain. If your not stable and not easily accept emotions, after the trip your life becomes harder. Your feelings become stronger, and if your not good at accepting negative emotions, they are going to start troubeling you. So everything your going through, are problems where just some people go trough. There is nothing that you can do about that. As more as you start to accept your emotion and reality, the more you become in peace with yourself!

You also can try to visit a psychotherapist instead of psychiatrist, or visit both. Or you go and read some good "Self help books" explorer a little spirituality etc. Not to much, because you have to keep your foots on to the ground. Study life in general, and see your self as your really are. Confront your self with the truth, and recognise who your are, with and without your problems! Look in the mirror, and accept whatever you are seeing in the mirror.

My parents always told me a dutch saying "It's never so dark, or it already become light." I am not that good at translating, but it said something like that. And i actually think that's true. There will be a moment when your find yourself back again, trust me on that ;) Try to get some help and find solutions for yourself! How can you change your perspectives, so it make life a little more pleasant. Compromise and accept whatever comes to you! Try be kind against yourself.

One thing i also need to do, is changing my food pattern, because i have a lack on concentration. So eat healthy, find some hobby's, see some friends, try to enjoy the little things. Maybe you can practice a sport, which can reduce your serotonin and dopamine levels in your brain. But remember you need to do all this at yourself, you need to be strong, keep yourself together and go for it!@

I wish you good luck, and i honestly hope for you that on one day you will become more satisfied about everything thats hard to swallow.

Greets,
Mysticwarrior.
 
Don't be afraid, just let the emotion passing by, but feel them instead of ignoring them. Don't think for a moment, but just feel the pain! Breath deep and feel that it's just a emotion. Actually that`s all there is, just an emotion. Ride it, as if your in a roller-coaster. Accept them for what they are. Don't blame the world, don't blame yourself. All thats happening to you right now, is just there to teach you a lesson. Finally it would make you stronger, really believe me. I've been there. But try to focus on what you want in live, This could finally change your thought patterns of life.

That's wonderfully put. It's not an easy thing to do, but it is an essential life skill I think.
 
Hehehe, these where words came out of me tonight when i came back of a mdma trip ;) i guess that's called empathy :P
 
mysticwarrior a dit:
Hehehe, these where words came out of me yesterday evenening when i came back of a mdma trip ;)
Notice the empathic quality of what was written, the honesty, and the flow of words. The empathogen MDMA in action.

I couldn't agree more with what mysticwarrior has written. Eat healthy, read books on psychology and other subjects, get disciplined, exercise... You'll be fine.
 
Never mix MDMA with any stimulant (even cafeine) as this will kill the love and empathogenic properties and therefore, it'll turn out acting like an amphetamine. Especially cocaine and speed, they'll make you harsh, distant and contracted, while E makes you tender, close and loose.

While the serotonine receptors are fully open with dancing neurotransmitters between them, one may not notice the experience due to the overpowered stimulant. No experience, but an heavy hang over for practically nothing, which lasts longer than you'd predict.

Back in days I had pills with amphetamine in them, didn't felt anything of the M, and my predictions were in no way rewarded. 10 days a terrible after taste and only after a month I turned to normal as in terms of having faith in an awesome mood through partydrugs.

On Ibiza many have that 'the more I take in, the more pleasure I will have' mentality. But stay yourself with what you know.

The rest has been said.
 
i had pure mdma crystals to ... but i mixed with coke and 1/2 heartie pill as i said before 0.25 pure mdma crystals 1/2 heartie pill and 0.25 cocaine all mixed 2gether and putted in my sniffer...and trust me u don't get anywhere the drugs that u find in ibiza :( i hate that day and i feel i won't recover soon!my life is really fucked up my advice never snort mdma mixed cocaine !!!!
 
tudy a dit:
i had pure mdma crystals to ... but i mixed with coke and 1/2 heartie pill as i said before 0.25 pure mdma crystals 1/2 heartie pill and 0.25 cocaine all mixed 2gether and putted in my sniffer...and trust me u don't get anywhere the drugs that u find in ibiza :( i hate that day and i feel i won't recover soon!my life is really fucked up my advice never snort mdma mixed cocaine !!!!

Well i guess, you have learned something ;)

Before ingesting any type of drugs, first do some research.... What does it do with you? And more important, what are the negative effects of the substance your wanting to ingest? Can you combine it with other substances etc etc. If your experimenting it is also important to not cross the line. I have seen so many people who did that, and soon or late they got into trouble.

I am sure you will recover, just try to follow the advice that everyone has given to you, and you will recover!
 
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