I don't need this.

[Bastiaan]

banning GOD reminds me of a war for peace and sex for virginity. It just conflicts with the spirit of this community

sigh.. I can't do anything but agree with this..
on the other hand GOD went too far and also ruined the atmosphere..

I'm not usually indicisive but right now I really don't know what to think..

 

[restin]

I know I said bye but I want to give an explanation...

I was also quite irritated by the splitting of threads, because to be honest, what happened on this board and the people bashing on me for my different ideas about life did have alot of impact on me not feeling accepted anywhere. Here I felt like , what the heck I cannot even be accepted like I am on a psychonaut board, which is supposed to be a community of open minded people... well I must truely be a looser. Which is why I called for help, because this tension and this rejection while silent in the last months was still very present in my heart.

I don't understand your argumentation. A thread, generally, is, as the wording says (filament, strand, ...) is built by a topic question by the initial poster which is then resolved. It is based on context. Of course, this is often not possible and off-topic is guaranteed BUT, the big but, when two main topics are crystallized from a discussion, it seems more than logical to split the threads - out of respect for the initial poster (I actually hoped that would help you), for means of space, to concentrate context etc.

And this simply happened in this thread. In the For those who only know me - thread, the posts about help for Ahua went under by posts about another, unresolved issue.

And for fuck's sake, how can you even discuss about that?

CM, you are doing stuff that is wrong on so many levels.

* why did you remove mod rights from restin without warning/consulting other mods?

* why did you ask him to restore the thread within 10 minutes when you know for a fact that merging threads isn't possible with the current version of the forum?

* why did you ban GOD without consent from other moderators?

* why did you access Ground_Control when you know you are not a moderator and you only got the password to it by mistake (and even said that you didn't want to know)?

* why did you change the password again today and didn't notify me about it?

I'll stop posting too until all of this is cleared up.

 

[Guest]

CM, you are doing stuff that is wrong on so many levels.

* why did you remove mod rights from restin without warning/consulting other mods?

* why did you ask him to restore the thread within 10 minutes when you know for a fact that merging threads isn't possible with the current version of the forum?

* why did you ban GOD without consent from other moderators?

* why did you access Ground_Control when you know you are not a moderator and you only got the password to it by mistake (and even said that you didn't want to know)?

* why did you change the password again today and didn't notify me about it?

I'll stop posting too until all of this is cleared up.

I *strongly* support everything here, from what I see it's once again an issue about abusing moderating (and admin) rights.

You can't ban people or remove one's from his moderator post without asking the others first.

CM, everytime I came to you with a request for banning a troublesome user, you ALWAYS told me stuff like "I'd like to have the opinions of the other moderators first", so how come this doesn't also applies to you ? Are you above the rules or what ?

 

[Guest]

Read the posts by Heartcore and Ahuaeynjxs posted above, and read them carefully. They described why I have done what I've done perfectly.

Yeah, right.

Except they don't mention anything other than reasons about why GOD was banned, which isn't the current issue here.

 

[Affirmatory]

I agree with restin. I agree with st.bot. I agree with Forkbender. I agree with Tiax.

I do agree that the threat was not appropriate, and I don't quite agree that the threat should have been split, but CM isn't even a moderator right?

CM has truly stepped over the line. I see this as a dictatorship.

 

[imagine]

Im new and ignorant.

God was argumentative and stupid (in the sense that he published a threat).

I dont know about anything else.

Please speak privately and resolve this.

I really like this place and i hope it comes to like me but authority has to be centralized for a forum to function so multiple people making decisions will inevitably bring far worse conflict because it wil be amongst friends.

Regards A.

 

[Ganesha]

I think taking away modrights for a small mistake if it is a mistake at all (splitting a thread that a few persons think shouldn't be split) is too rigorous. Besides, you don't take matters into your own hand, this isn't a banana republic.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

What I have done is only temporary. But whomever is going to turn back what I have done will be responsible for that decision. I have done what I had to do, for the people I represent and my own conscience. Call it what you want, I do not care. Enough is enough.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Sounds like a trap was setup for 'ol CM... clever, clever people.

Not quite enough however. I see right through.

 

[user_1919]

Power= Corruption.

I am astonished to see on a forum like this, who is against control of the people and wants the government to fuck off and leave us alone, that you guys yourselves are starting to take control of this forum. To me this is just totally irrational. Let people show there true nature, period. Apparently someone's ego is being offended and can't put their ego aside and just love and accept all for who they are. This is just my opinion, and I am in disgust to see where this forum is heading.

Remember,

PEACE, LOVE, LIGHT, & UNITY.

 

[mysticwarrior]

Let people show there true nature, period.

I really got your point, but you statement above, is exactly what seems to be the true nature of human. We should first be enlighted, to reach to the point where we are all aware of our ego and stop acting as fools. I mean if we nowadays would say, come on people all over the world, show your true nature, then believe me. The world would go crazy and so this also seems to happen on a Internet community.

But your right about what your said, it is a ego game. And you should expect that this sort of problems wouldn't exist on a forum like psychonaut. But being a psychonaut or an activist against power, doesn't have to mean that you can or are able to resist against your own ego. The ego is smarter then we would like it to be, especially in the case of the recent problems on psychonaut, it can get very hard. I mean, right now there is not the ego of one person, but 2 groups of people fighting against each other's ego.

The good thing is, that this kind of problem do teach us a lot! And don't forget, that on the most forums the problems are far more worse then here on psychonaut. So it seems we are already more aware of these ego fights, then people on other forums on the internet.

But again, i understand what your saying

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Define ego.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I am astonished to see on a forum like this, who is against control of the people and wants the government to fuck off and leave us alone, that you guys yourselves are starting to take control of this forum.

I didn't take control, though I took some responsibility for this site some years ago (for those who don't know: I used to be the Site Admin after HeartCore, and both of us quit because of conflicts with GOD. Heartcore in January 2008, myself in January 2009). The person who is ultimately in control of this site is the site owner, and I sent him the new password to the Site Admin account right after I changed it.

We don't want governments to "fuck off and leave us alone". We want governments to be fair, responsible, well-informed and respectful of personal choices, including freedom of spirituality and thus the choice to alter consciousness. On this forum we need government (rules and moderation), so we can exchange ideas peacefully and constructively, and people coming here for the first time will like the atmosphere. GOD's approach wasn't conducive to peace and constructive exploration of ideas. This has been pointed out many, many times already.

 

[st.bot.32]

I didn't take control

CM, you completely took over behind everyone's backs and locked out Forkbender. It was your decision, your choice.

The issue here is a matter of trust. You've broken that trust, big time.

On this forum we need government (rules and moderation), so we can exchange ideas peacefully and constructively, and people coming here for the first time will like the atmosphere.

So you should be that government for a day and make your decisions for everyone?

Come on, that excuse has as much substance as the emperor's new clothes.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

CM, you completely took over behind everyone's backs and locked out Forkbender. It was your decision, your choice.

Why is it that Forkbender found out so quickly that Ground Control was locked? Did he want to remove spam?

Yes it was my decision, my choice. Now one of you will have to make the decision, the choice, to let GOD in again.

And ban me perhaps. There would be no need of that however, because one more post by GOD on this forum, and Caduceus Mercurius commits suicide. Not to make a melodramatic statement, but because enough is enough, for me.

The issue here is a matter of trust. You've broken that trust, big time.

I know. I sure wish it could have been done differently, but this is how it happened.

 

[st.bot.32]

Why is it that Forkbender found out so quickly that Ground Control was locked? Did he want to remove spam?

I find it pretty outrageous that you're trying to imply something about Forkbender. Of course he would have discovered it was locked out within a period of a few hours of you doing it. What you had done was posted all over the main page of the site. Any decent site admin would immediately look into what's going on. Plus the moment you started acting as a site admin, revoking restin's mod rights, I sent fork a PM with a link to the threads that had been split and restin's thread. Remember, you aren't supposed to be a moderator. You seem to keep confusing this issue. When someone takes over the forum, of course we are going to try to figure out what in the blazes is going on. For any reason.

I think the real question is why did you choose to do this right when the site owner went on vacation?

Yes it was my decision, my choice. Now one of you will have to make the decision, the choice, to let GOD in again.

It isn't up to one person to make these decisions.

And ban me perhaps.

Who wants to ban who?

It's pretty rare anyone has ever been banned on this forum except when they deliberately start deleting posts en masse (HeartCore, Douglass).

There would be no need of that however, because one more post by GOD on this forum, and Caduceus Mercurius commits suicide.

There are plenty of people on this site who appreciate your posts, it would be a shame for you to decide to leave.

I know. I sure wish it could have been done differently, but this is how it happened.

You invoke passive grammar, when it is you alone who acted on this. It didn't just 'happen'. It could very well have been handled differently.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I think the real question is why did you choose to do this right when the site owner went on vacation?

I didn't choose to do this. GOD decided to come back right before he went on vacation, and Restin chose to do what he did a couple of days later. If it's anything, it's synchronicity.

It isn't up to one person to make these decisions.

Regardless, one person will have to click somewhere, just like I did. Whatever you decide in a more or less democratic fashion, one person will have to make the final decision.

You invoke passive grammar, when it is you alone who acted on this. It didn't just 'happen'. It could very well have been handled differently.

I asked Space-is-the-Place that question specifically, in a PM, how he would have handled it differently, but he didn't answer.

With restin denying he did anything wrong and repeatedly unlocking the threads I closed, in a tug of war kind of way, I decided to take away his rights and close the Site Admin account to prevent further struggles, and freeze the situation (and the content of those fragmented but very significant threads) until the site owner would be back.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

You guys speak like psychonaut is a country... well maybe it is ?

Or just a lounge ?

I dunno everything seems blown out of proportion ! I mean whew !

 

[cockknocker]

Forum not a nice place anymore.


Official resignation.


Thanks for all your help guys, goodbye.

 

[magickmumu]

You guys speak like psychonaut is a country... well maybe it is ?

Or just a lounge ?

I dunno everything seems blown out of proportion ! I mean whew !

I don't know but I don't think psychonaut is a country.
And I don't believe CM turned Mussolini
What he did maybe not so smart, but what he did can be changed back again.
As I understand CM correctly god can come back if he is allowed and restin can get his mod rights back.

Who knows maybe god will be back, and you can all discuss kinky party's and animal sex again.
Or maybe some necrophilia, that would be fun wouldn't it.
:?: :? I don't care.