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I broke my best friend with LSD

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Personally, I don't trust much in spiritual words or acts before trips - rather I just assure myself and make an effort to run directly into them and interact instead of sit back and wait until I'm scared - it achieves the same effect. I believe the waiting mindset is prone to failures because it is waiting for something to go wrong and not in control when it does. The first means I'm more used to identifying what is upsetting me and modify it. I would never kid myself that I am invulnerable to bad trips, but I have yet to have one that has ever sent me spiraling - that's not to say that I have not had ones involving things that upset me at. But I have been able to reason with the evils at the time and after by believing in my own heart. The more I do it, the less scary the worst are. I have tripped on multiple substances and quarter -> half oz amounts of mushrooms multiple times, so I should be damaged by now if I was doing something wrong.

TO THE POINT

I can somewhat sympathize with your friend. I'm sure anyone who's taken a few different things in different circumstances will have had one of those less than pleasant experiences.

A few times I've had people start talking down to me on a trip, and some other strange psychological games. On the occasions the other person has taken something, I can easily imagine how they might not realize what they're saying.

Taking things inevitably invites the feeling of being vulnerable. Sometimes in a very severe way. I have also found that it's worse when you're dealing with someone else who you don't know very well, so it makes it difficult to tell if they're playing around or being serious.

Since I have the experience I do, I know all too well how easy it would be for me to scare someone - but that's just not what it's about. Rather, I go out of my way to think ahead for them and manipulate an evening to make it as good as possible for them.

You have to ask yourself if you've ever said anything to make him question himself, feel embarrassed or wonder if you were playing around with him. Keep in mind the drug's affects on yourself.

It is possible your friend is also just one of those people who can't deal with it. Drugs to me are like learning to fly off a cliff. Some people will jump off and get it, others hit the sand. Luckily, most of them hit the sand after a very small jump.

I have heard from and seen people smoke cannabis and not be able to deal with the mental imagery (not visuals) or the mild visuals. The media makes out these people are hypersensitive to drugs and at risk. I can almost say for sure that I feel and see the same kinds of things these people do, but I am open to them and realize they are not going to hurt me.

I agree with the advice above that the only option is to lay it straight out with him and ask for specific things he thinks you've done. Tell him you don't mind if he insults you and then try to tell him how you saw those events.

If there genuinely wasn't any messing around, that should help.

I hate to say it, but there are certain people I dislike taking drugs with, or feel uneasy around, due to the fact that they have a high tendency to mess around. It makes it hard to relax - which is key to being safe both physically and mentally. I know these people are doing it on purpose at times, but others time I suspect it's something they're not even really aware of in terms of what I might think when they say or do something.
 
"Personally, I don't trust much in spiritual words or acts before trips "

Which ones do you mean ? If you mean meditation and / or ritual ? , in the sense i mean it they have nothing to do with the way you put it . I dont mean some jerk being anoying prancing around in fancy dress jodeling and banging a drum .
 
GOD a dit:
"Personally, I don't trust much in spiritual words or acts before trips "

Which ones do you mean ? If you mean meditation and / or ritual ? , in the sense i mean it they have nothing to do with the way you put it . I dont mean some jerk being anoying prancing around in fancy dress jodeling and banging a drum .

I mean the latter.

If you make it back from numerous trips able to stand in a dark room on your own, I don't think it matters which you go for - I just don't like it when I read about a drug and hear people suggesting I need to prey or perform a sacrosanct act before taking it, not that you are but I've heard it a lot of times. To me it's all in the mind state. Confident and open. The root to achieving that is merely personal choice.

Scared and closed is the path to the special room. People tend to become closed and scared when they feel vulnerable, creating the circle of fear the none trip capable fall into.
 
Peach, I respect what you are saying here, and I get it.. but I'll have to disagree with you a bit.

When we say "ritual", it doesn't mean "religious". When I have a party, I have everyone do a toast to start things off, with a little speech beforehand to bind things together. It gets the group primed for the experience, and someone has told them that yes, it will not only be ok, but will be excellent. I set up the space as well as can be to make things comfortable and easy for people to either be with others, or be alone, as they choose.

That goes a long way to helping mindset of anyone who might be nervous or distracted. It gets the group communicating and helps them all feel connected.

To date, I have not had a "bad" event at a party, or any drama whatsoever.

So, ritual is useful in that it puts the set into focus, and when you have the setting such that things can be smooth and flowing, things generally work out very well, even if someone has a bad memory come up.. the group takes care of it easily through compassion. But it takes a good host and a careful choice of who is in the group.
 
hey man that sounds like a disaster
but if hes accusing u of tampering with his mind while intoxicated he may be referring to the acid and using u as a physical outlet for his pain toward the drug use...as u were the one who got in for him this of coardse is irational

also i would perhaps make sure it was in fact him who sent the letter and that no one else is a influencing factors making him worse, like people spreading rumors or putting ideas in his head while he's intoxicated
 
Your friend is certainly not in a sane mind space and sounds like he has some psychosis of some type and needs medical attention. Its most likely that he had some issues that the psychedelics may have brought to the surface. LSD or other psychedelics do not cause psychotic breaks but they can trigger ones already there!!! Try to talk to him and convince him he needs help with this issue or atleast lay off not only psychedelics but any drugs including cannabis too!!!
 
CaduceusMercurius a dit:
You don't go nuts from taking acid.

So, what about Sid Barret? :P

Maybe your friend should stop taking acid, or any kind of psychedelic, I don't know him, so I can't really say, but it looks like he's going a bit psychotic.

Quiting psychedelics won't necessarily end his problems either, it could be for life, I really don't wan't to sound so dramatic, even though I am.
But it's not the first time it happened.
 
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