GODbye

[Forkbender]

When threads were being split, and all moderators including the Site Admin continued to turn a blind eye to GOD's behavior, I decided to freeze the situation.

That's a nice euphemism.

However, turning a blind eye means that I knew GOD's behavior was wrong but didn't do anything about it while in fact that is what I disputed. I was very open about what I thought and why and you cannot possibly ascribe to me the notion that I think GOD's behavior was wrong. When I did nothing about it, I did nothing about it because I didn't see anyone crossing lines. Not even you.

 

[magickmumu]

I agree with Forkbender. It isn't easy to draw a line. However I think God crossed the line when he started threatening CM.
They way Restin reacted on the situation just made things worse. But hey I am not for a Ban for life. A cool down period for the persons involved would be something else.

 

[GOD]

Pardon ? Against the forum rules !!!!! What about caduceus posting in 5 diferent user names and useing at least two different ones at the same time . What about the mutual respect rule and explain how that fits with the way all the people that want answers are being misslead , lead around in circles and their legitimate questions are not being answered . Tell me why caduceus can be asked not to say bad things about me and to avoid trouble with me and can since then do exactly that over and over again ? What hes said in this thread proves that .

I wasnt asked to keep the same condition i was ordered to and told i would be watched from then on . That my posts would be edited , deleted or i would be banned if i broke that rule . As caduceus has broken it over and over since he was asked i think its fair if i do the same .

I was also told that the reason why i was haveing trouble with the site royalty was because heartcore and caduceus had complained about me to often and asked for me to be banned to often . That if anyone complained about me again i would be banned . If needs be i can prove that .

Why the trick wiith the PMs ? The only thing that that means is that you can make acusations about me in private again and again i cant defend myself .

Can anyone imagine what its like for me ? Since i was "banned" caduceus and his friends havent missed one single opertunity to say bad things about me , to say false things about me and to lay red herringds . I kept quiet , since my daughter was slandered i`ve got to the point where i have dificulty to keep quiet and let them continue to try to cause me trouble .

This isnt the first wich hunt against me here its the second . The same people were responsible for the first one that are responsible for this one and do it for the same reason = they cant acept that i show that they / the emperor has no clothes on .

Mumu who threatened who ? Caduceus admited that he had been deliberately trying to cause me trouble in a thread before i said i would get him if he had anything to do with wotsit comiting suicide . Also if you read the thread where i posted last you will see that that threat wasnt the reason why caduceus hijacked the forum . Read my last post there and the one before it . Then think about it and tell us all what was in my last post there that gave a reason to "ban" me , demote Restin and stop Fork getting into the administrator account ? The real reason must be in what i wrote in my last post there . Also mystic warrior said in a thread that he had been trying to cause me trouble and said that he would keep doing it and follow me from thread to thread doing it . Or when wotsit says my language is disgusting allthough he and caduceus use the same words ? Where is the mutual respect there ? And a cool down period for who ? Only me ? Are there one set of rules for caduceus and his lobby and another for other people ?

Sorry to all of you . I will try to controle myself and not post again but its very hard watching so many dirty tricks being played against me while i am keeping quiet .

 

[magickmumu]

I never said I agreed with CM hijacking the forum.
I am not defending CM actions he can do that himself. I am addressing your behaviour god.

 

[Twilight]

God I don't think you should keep quiet.
Do contribute to the community, but just try to stick to the mutual respect rule you mentioned in your post.

 

[Psychoid]

An apology to the people most affected by this would help... About what happened to the forum, I don't think this has anything to do with GOD. It's about the action and the result, not about the justification.

100% agreed

Apologies to the new members and oldtimers that don't frequent the forum very much: I can undertstand this thing must have been really confusing and disturbing to you. I cannot adequately explain in a single paragraph why I did it, so let me just say I'm sorry for the part I played in all this. Like everyone else around here I get angry sometimes, express myself in clumsy ways and do things that are unconventional. I will continue trying to be fair and friendly to all.

Apologies NOT accepted. You have shown too many time that you have no scruples lying. It's too easy to lie writing a text. And also, what you wrote isn't satisfactory at all, doesn't seem sincere, has obviously been written in 1 minute, just making a simple form of apology to try and make us forgive you, and you're still not taking responsility for what you did.


You won't be forgiven until you post a VIDEO of yourself saying that you are sorry, to who, for what reasons PRECISELY and EXHAUSTIVELY, and that you engage yourself to NEVER ever have any power on the forum (direct or indirect). And we must see you entirely, not a big zoom in your face. It's easy to lie on the forum, but body language doesn't.
I want clarifications or I am leaving this forum. And everyone else for whom integrity is an important value should do the same.

GOD has very little to do in this issue. It's all about CM and the site owners and workers. And why aren't you posting your explanations in public? Don't want GOD to able able to disprove them?

If I don't get satisfying clarification I'm out of this forum. And everyone for whom integrity and honesty are important values should do the same.


**** Is Leospace back from his vacations?

 

[magickmumu]

A video.. :shock:
That's bullshit.
I wouldn't make a video if i where CM even if i was honestly sorry.

If you think there needs to be a video, make one yourself.

 

[Oknayd]

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

To all the moderators: do not forget to study the four posts by Daniel.

 

[GOD]

And also look at the times when they were posted and the time when the god is daniel post was posted to get it in perspective . Then remember how long it took anyone that hadnt got acess to the administrator acount to say for sure that getafix is caduceus or that Mr.Smith was any of his identitys . All of whos posts were in exactly the same style .

Answer the questions and explain your actions .

 

[Psychoid]

A video.. :shock:
That's bullshit.
I wouldn't make a video if i where CM even if i was honestly sorry.

If you think there needs to be a video, make one yourself.

Do I have a reason to make one?

That's how it is when you lose someone's trust, it is hard to gain it back.I just said the only circumstances under which I would believe his words. Wether it is possible or not isn't even relevant.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

You have a good reason Psychoid... you speak for the whole community and refuse apologies for "we".

3000 reads and running, this much people are evaluating your words now. Thats far from teh 22 thousand something which glorified the anti-sun worship thread I made... but still.

Whatever Oleg... you're too full of yourself, regardless. Some people here seem to claim I have the same boastful ego, but I like to think I got a perspective, I dreamt of the people here and I've seen unseen dynamics at work. I did not slander your daughter, I really tought you'd have the honor to just assume you speaking of it publicly, in the same words I used.

Your daughter ran away from home without telling you, you said many more things but I don't see the interest of using that as a leverage ; from your part.

A battle of power, ban me if you wish, I'll still have made a friend thats worth all the power in the world.

I can see him smile at an amanita, his inner child is steward. His body could be decaying, his mind could be full of distortion and illwill... I could care less.

I tolerate everyone, but I am also honest. Compassion does not come as a passive sentiment, it's an active dynamism that requires temperance and balance, freedom and unconditional governance.

I am here because I care.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Just some observations after a good night's rest:

I didn't receive any further PM's.

Daniel's posts have been removed, but I can't see who did this, or for what reason. It seems his account has been deleted rather than frozen. It's also unclear to me whether all the moderators and administrators got the chance to read the 4 posts first.

Moderators (all of you), can you please post a "yes, I read them / no, I didn't read them" here?

 

[darkwolfunseen]

Peace, if you wish to leave or not. I think, worst case scenario, a "sabbatical" is better then a final goodbye.

 

[GOD]

WOTSIT STOP SLANDERING MY DAUGHTER WHAT YOU SAY IS NOT TRUE .

 

[ararat]

Just some observations after a good night's rest:

I didn't receive any further PM's.

Daniel's posts have been removed, but I can't see who did this, or for what reason. It seems his account has been deleted rather than frozen. It's also unclear to me whether all the moderators and administrators got the chance to read the 4 posts first.

Moderators (all of you), can you please post a "yes, I read them / no, I didn't read them" here?

what for? who cares?

why do you send the explanation only as a pm?
oh, and please send me one of those.

 

[GOD]

The emperor wears no clothes AGAIN .

"I can't see who did this, or for what reason. It seems his account has been deleted rather than frozen. "

Please explain that fully . What did you do ? How did you do it ? Ordinary members with no administrator powers cant do that . The only way for someone to have any idea about what went on are people who can get into the administrator acount....................= you still can

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

So did you, or did you not?

what for? who cares?

Well, those posts were in violation of the forum rules (I guess that's why they were removed), but so was the person who created the sock puppet. That's why all moderators have to study them for themselves, otherwise how can they make a fair assessment of the situation?

why do you send the explanation only as a pm?

This thread is long enough as it is. Whatever I write in public is not taken seriously, not read attentively, not understood or disputed. I've already expressed my point of view clearly, so whoever still has doubts or questions will get answers via PM.

Please explain that fully . What did you do ? How did you do it ?

I checked 'posts since last visit', saw that IJesusChrist had posted in the 'your greatest fear' thread, and noticed Daniel's post was gone. It was also gone in the GODbye thread. For the rest I said "it seems..."

Many of you still doubt this, but it is simply the truth: I have no access to any moderator account or whatever else may be used to look up, verify or change data.

Regarding sock puppets, you can also check out the last posts written by Pinealjerker (the screen name I registered when I first joined the site), the first posts by Caduceus Mercurius, as well as the first (or even all) posts written by Getafix. You'll see that the transition from Pinealjerker to Caduceus Mercurius was done openly, much like Misery becoming BananaPancake. Pinealjerker and Caduceus even have the same avatar. Getafix was created to post news items. A sock puppet maybe, but not one with evil intent.

I never minded druglessdouglas becoming Mr.Smith because his new posts weren't malicious or anything (haven't recently checked the first posts of that account though). I don't mind if people adopt a new screen name if they abandon the old one, and when their new ID isn't created to engage in manipulative tactics or create more strife. I have never created a new profile for such purposes, and I'm completely honest when I say that Pinealjerker, Caduceus and Getafix are the only profiles I've registered here.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

P.S.: I realize I cannot possibly convince you that I have no more administrative rights. This doubt of yours almost crashed the forum, gave rise to a provocative sock puppet and conspiracy theories. To prevent further damage to the forum, I have the following suggestion.

You ban "Caduceus Mercurius" (i.e. freeze the account), but allow me to register again as "Caduceus", using the same avatar etc. This way everyone can be completely sure I have no more rights and we can continue the discussion with less tension and distrust.

 

[GOD]

Pinilejerker is still a member and has the number 6692 and he joined on the 5th of april 2007 . You said in a thread that you had been here since 2006 . He gave his www adress as

http://www.woerdengezond.nl/

Strangely after reading all the posts on psychonaut where you and some of your friends ( lobby ) keep talking about supplements , herbs and vitamins and recomending them to people over and over again one sees that on that site you advertise and sell/sold them all .

Also takeing a look at the links list shows that you recomend

www.davidicke.com

For those that dont know about david icke look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke its worth reading all of it . It will also put some light on who is and why they are pushing the site into the direction of mentaly ill fringe "esoterics" like Nassim Haramein , the professional criminal and plagarist dan winter , 2012. 911 conspiracys and other "esoteric" fringe conspiracy theorys that are takeing over this site and draging it down .

That will also explain why i get attacked so much by you and your lobby for debunking fringe "esoterics" , = financial and personal interests , and showing that the emperor has no clothes on .

You said that you have no powers on the forum and are just an ordinary member . But you still havent explained why your name apears in green wich is only the case with moderators ?

Talking about abuse of power , personal interests , what is happening on this site and whos causeing the trouble and why and how they are doing it . You also told us that you work for the owner of the site . We were also told that the site costs 8700 euros a year and that part of that was for answering emails and moderation = administrative tasks .

Are you paid to "tend" the site ? And remember i already know the answer to that question because you told me in a PM . I was also told the answer before you became administrator by someone who knows .

Takeing that a step farther does the owner of this site know all that or are you playing a double game with him . Remember that was the question in the PM i sent to him just before you had your nervous breakdown and hijacked the site for at least the second time while he was on holiday . The PM that you and your friend mysticwarrior got to know about and mysticwarrior mentioned in the "poor little me no one likes me so i`m going to kill myself" thread by wotsit. ( Funily enough he , your friend / another part of your lobby , is still at least physicaly present in this reality ) .


"This doubt of yours almost crashed the forum"

Pardon ???? Explain that . Its not only my doubt and how can you posibly acuse me of nearly crashing the forum . Isnt that a bit paranoid or at least hysterical ? And you reregistering wont prove anything . The fact that someone isnt publicly suposed to be allowed to enter and manipulate the administrator acount doesnt mean that he hasnt got the password to it and cant carry on damageing the reputation and credebility of the site and the owner as you have proved several times in the past .

Personal i think that that all throws a new light on the problems that the site had with posts being edited that you denyed was posible and was later proven to be true by me . Fork and Leospace . Strangely enough the manipulated posts were all in threads from / about all your and your lobbys interests and happened after you got acess to the administrator acount .