farewell from daytripper

[Guest]

hello, psychonauts.



i am retiring from psychonauting. i felt that i've learnt all that i could from it, and understood that i must use this information towards something constructive. i don't regret any of my experiences, but i feel like it is time to stop. if there's one thing that psychonauting (using drugs) should teach you is that you have fantastic planes of existence, and you have such a power within yourself that is discovered thru some substances. but then, there is this drawback: you should get there without the help of any drug. drugs are like maps, and once you've read your map long enough, you should get to where you want without looking in it.
my path goes on, but without psychedelics.
a farewell to all of you and the sincere hopes that you find what you search. i've found it and i am at peace.

 

[Meduzz]

sounds like your on the good way to enlightment
i hope that you find what you're searching for, and thanks for the exchange of knowledge here on the forum.

good luck!!

 

[HeartCore]

. if there's one thing that psychonauting (using drugs) should teach you is that you have fantastic planes of existence, and you have such a power within yourself that is discovered thru some substances. but then, there is this drawback: you should get there without the help of any drug. drugs are like maps, and once you've read your map long enough, you should get to where you want without looking in it.

There are places that are impossible or virtually impossbie to reach. Certain tryptamine states come to mind. And although I respect your choice to leave the entheogenic path, I think you are wrong in making these assumptions. Fact is entheogens have been used for thousands of years and that is the case because they work for a large group of people. Nobody should get anywhere without the use of entheogens just because you feel that you should. I hope you don't take this as offensive

You will be missed and I hope to see you back someday
love/peace
HC

PS I had a nine year break of entheogens once

 

[Pinealjerker]

but then, there is this drawback: you should get there without the help of any drug. drugs are like maps, and once you've read your map long enough, you should get to where you want without looking in it.
my path goes on, but without psychedelics.

If your assumption that you can get "there" without drugs is correct, you have made the right decision. But if your assumption is wrong, you're closing yourself to an integral part of the human experience: the freedom to explore consciousness through the ingestion of psychedelic plants.

Yoga and meditation will take you somewhere, but never to the psychedelic realms. We have no examples in human history of anyone "getting there" without the use of nature. There's an element of arrogance in the thought that you can do it alone, that you don't need nature.

You can strive for peace of mind through yoga and meditation without saying no to psychedelics. Indeed that's what most psychonauts do: they practice asanas, they read books, they listen to interesting speakers and teachers. By rejecting psychedelics forever, you're in a sense saying they are inferior. In fact they are neither inferior nor superior to anything. They are simply unique, just like massage, and aromatherapy, and smoking pot are all unique activities with unique results.

Just a final note: if you try to "get there" through any of the thousands of new age or hindu methods out there, be assured that all teachers will confirm your assumption that you can get there through their particular method, and that indeed they / their teacher was / is on that level. They are not, believe me. They may have peace of mind and they may know a lot of philosophy, but they will not have and will never attain the psychedelic vision.

I know this because I have followed both paths throughout my life, and have interacted with people from many walks of life and spiritual paths. No one needs to permanently give up psychedelics. Yes, we all take a break every now and then, but no need to write a farewell message about that.

Cannabis, mushrooms and ayahuasca, these are your allies. Reject all drugs if you must, just don't reject these.

 

[Dantediv86]

Farwell, i hope you will come back sometimes, but then again if we are never to read from you again
good bye and may you find what you are looking for

 

[Lion]

. if there's one thing that psychonauting (using drugs) should teach you is that you have fantastic planes of existence, and you have such a power within yourself that is discovered thru some substances. but then, there is this drawback: you should get there without the help of any drug. drugs are like maps, and once you've read your map long enough, you should get to where you want without looking in it.

There are places that are impossible or virtually impossbie to reach. Certain tryptamine states come to mind. And although I respect your choice to leave the entheogenic path, I think you are wrong in making these assumptions. Fact is entheogens have been used for thousands of years and that is the case because they work for a large group of people. Nobody should get anywhere without the use of entheogens just because you feel that you should. I hope you don't take this as offensive

You will be missed and I hope to see you back someday
love/peace
HC

PS I had a nine year break of entheogens once

Tryptamine states?? Enlighten me please.


Daytripper, farewell, peace and have a great journey in sobre life.

 

[HeartCore]

Tryptamine states?? Enlighten me please.

Psilocybin/DMT.

 

[phalaris]

Good luck, I wish you only the best !

It was good to have you here for quite some time.

Greets,
Phalaris.

 

[Jahvisions]

Well good luck with your choice, as for me I won't see myself quiting really quikly, for me it's just a few times a year and it helps me staying humble. Even if I've seen a lot while tripping after a while my ego is growing again and I am becoming more short-tempored, it seems to me like a self-defence against this though world. Well enough about me, I hope you don't stop learning in life. bye

 

[scamie]

no need to make statements. I dont have to question your choice.... there is no need to opinion a man's choice in this one!!! i wish you aaaaaal the best!! see what life brings on your path next.... or whatever you want to come in your path way!! bey and all the luck to you

 

[Entheonaut]

Thank you for everything you have contributed to this community daytripper, I wish you all the best in the world. I hope you will visit the forum sometime in the future again... We will miss you!

I wish you love, peace, and enlightenment... Good luck to you fellow psychonaut :wink: :goodman:

 

[MindAstronaut]

Good luck and may all good things come in your way.
its was nice to have you here with us..

btw dont be shy to drop by sometimes :wink:

PeaCe..

 

[toadlicker]

i'm always proud to see someone able to quit using substances and continue their path without them. all this time drugs may have been your tour guide but now you know where you are going and how to get there. congradulations and good luck! nothing but the best of wishes to you man.

 

[Meduzz]

a bit like buddha leaving hinduism

 

[HeartCore]

i'm always proud to see someone able to quit using substances and continue their path without them.

Edit: rephrasing

The way I see it, there is also proud to be seen in coming out and proclaiming that yes, some entheogens actually work when you have respect for their 'manual'. Of course its important if and when to take a break, no doubt about that but we are not talking about something bad here. Or something that shouldnt be done. And if anyone can reach these specific states by themselves without any help, more power to them. But that doesnt make it better or more profound.

Love/peace
Henk

 

[Pinealjerker]

a bit like buddha leaving hinduism

If you ask me, it's more like Buddha becoming a hindu again.

But taking a break can be very helpful. Just don't replace the psychedelics with alcohol and gurus.

 

[Gratefully_dead]

Im glad you found what you were looking for with psychedelics my man were all gonna miss you best of luck in all you do

 

[Brugmansia]

All the best on your path mate! One of the immense qualities a psychonaut can have is to accept others in the way they want to go, in an agreed peace no matter how we think individually.

You seem to have walked through this phase with common sense and got a education for the soul for it in return. Which is a gold medal for the rest of your life.

Don't try to influence his desicion guys, we are no obsessive religion, are we? :lol:

 

[silv]

All the best on your path mate! One of the immense qualities a psychonaut can have is to accept others in the way they want to go, in an agreed peace no matter how we think individually.

You seem to have walked through this phase with common sense and got a education for the soul for it in return. Which is a gold medal for the rest of your life.

Don't try to influence his desicion guys, we are no obsessive religion, are we? :lol:

i don't think anyone tried, people just disagreed with his current view on psychonautism. Anyway, I'm glad Daytripper found what he was looking for and I hope he'll have a good life with or without psychedelics either way the choice is yours and I hope you find happiness and fullfilment(spelling anyone?)!

Bless & Love

 

[Pinealjerker]

i don't think anyone tried, people just disagreed with his current view on psychonautism.

Yes, that was my motivation for writing. My main concern is that Daytripper doesn't replace psychedelics with either bad chemicals (I mentioned alcohol) or illusions (I mentioned gurus). If he can avoid these becoming too influential in his life, he has my blessings. Otherwise, I'm worried.