eerie dream creatures

[twicon]

with the recent ''dream topics'' i rememberd some eerie experiences i had while sleeping.while i was asleep i felt some airy being sitt on my back and when i was trying to react in panic i was paralyzed and to just get up my head and get it off me it was needed all my power ,while trying to get it of me i was in a semi-dreaming state, i could see around and all but i could feel this being like a net trying to keep me down.
1st and 2nd time was scary then whenewer it happent i was like ''f*** not again'' and trying not to panic.
Not happent to me since then.anyone have experienced something like it?
Some say stuff like that happen on anxiety periods(happent to me sporadically during 2005) but my experiences had a ''supernatural twist'' so i cant accept it was something ''normal''?!!

 

[????????]

What you experienced was perfectly normal, I had it as a kid and it scared the shit out of me. You probably were in a hypnagogic state but conscious (not supposed to happen) and the feeling of "something" pressing you is your own body doing you a favor through sleep paralysis, the method the brain uses so one doesn't go around somewhere while sleeping.

Hypnagogia is a well known phenomenon BUT it is VERY WEIRD. Auditory and visual hallucinations aren't uncommon and the feeling of one's body (specially limbs) it's VERY alien, it's like suddenly you just don't have hands, feet, etc. I have tried WILD, which is going to sleep while retaining consciousness, and the transition is a very very surreal, weird, wtf is happening experience. I actually felt the paralysis set in, it's like a wave of vibrations that start in your feet and go up rapidly, and then you can't move. I wasn't successful in actually going beyond because I felt as if I was meting through my bed I later read it was common, but it was one of the strangest things ever, it was as if I was being pulled down very fast. So that completely freaked me out and I woke up...

I guess we just aren't "designed" to be conscious while entering dream land??

 

[MindAstronaut]

Thats sound like sleep paralys.
On Wiki they say it might be related to a very low serotin level.
(but not on everybody)
So after some nights on MDMA its possible to have a experciene like that.

Its very fucked up and certainly not pleasant.

edit:
Weird the Wiki page has changed the last time i check it, they now say its possible that it might come from recent use of hallucinogenic drugs :?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis#References

 

[311girl]

That used to happen to me a lot! I thought I was haunted by a ghost when I was in high school, lol. I've had it where I feel like I "fall" straight through my bed, am lifted up and dropped again, or like I am being pulled off the bed by something....but then I read about sleep paralysis, etc., so i guess there is no ghost sitting on me after all.

As for serotonin, I work out regularly now and I rarely have this problem, so MA might be on to something there. When I do, I just tell my self to stay calm, I will be awake in a minute.

 

[twicon]

serotonin levels.. hmm, could be that period.

 

[thadivine]

yeah, certainly recognize this too.

I quite recently had a really strenge thing like this and i got a voice in my head telling me really nasty shit...Not pleasant.
But just the paralisis is not so bad at all i think...i think i have it really often?

And i never used MDMA, so that cant be the thing...perhaps i naturally have low serotonin? or really high or something? Dunno...

 

[311girl]

serotonin levels.. hmm, could be that period.

What?? Are you sexist?? Or just joking??

 

[twicon]

serotonin levels.. hmm, could be that period.

What?? Are you sexist?? Or just joking??

why do you think so?? just said that, cause my serotonin levels might have been low that period of time..
anyway,they have called me misogynic once..
so beware.. :lol:

 

[Glorgonash]

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[GOD]

High 311girl ,

I haope you enjoy yourself here and stay at lest a while , we could do with a few more womens views here and not just the views of us "men" .

"serotonin levels.. hmm, could be that period.

What?? Are you sexist?? Or just joking??"

Doesnt having a period also change serotonin levels ? What about PMT ? And no i`m not a sexist or joking . I`m just asking after my experience / suferings with a woman who had Permanent Menstrual Tension !!!!

 

[BrainEater]

yeah, certainly recognize this too.

I quite recently had a really strenge thing like this and i got a voice in my head telling me really nasty shit...Not pleasant.
But just the paralisis is not so bad at all i think...i think i have it really often?

And i never used MDMA, so that cant be the thing...perhaps i naturally have low serotonin? or really high or something? Dunno...

well this can be thoughts you receive from other people, while being very sensitivized (tuning into dream-state=sensitivized?), unconsciously of course. it could be thoughts you had suppressed coming up, mixed with other thoughts, too. if you don't believe that telepathy or receiving thoughts can happen you can say that it's dependant of the serotonin stuff.



@ twicon

strangely, i had experiences very similar to yours. i had the idea of it being some strange entitiy sucking my energy out of me, maybe some kind of invisible ghostlike creature, like some kind of drone. of course this sounds absurd, but after feeling it, i really had considered it. it might be, that the previously described only exists in my mind and my mind let it appear so real.
i especially considered it, because i had the feeling of being really connected to my "body" in that moments.
well, if it was only in my mind and thus my mind letting it appear as real as it can appear, there's no difference for me in determining if it really sucked the energy out of me or if i just imagined it by thinking it was real, because the effect was a feeling of drain, shock and being highly alert.


greetings

 

[BrainEater]

yeah, certainly recognize this too.

I quite recently had a really strenge thing like this and i got a voice in my head telling me really nasty shit...Not pleasant.
But just the paralisis is not so bad at all i think...i think i have it really often?

And i never used MDMA, so that cant be the thing...perhaps i naturally have low serotonin? or really high or something? Dunno...

well this can be thoughts you receive from other people, while being very sensitivized (tuning into dream-state=sensitivized?), unconsciously of course. it could be thoughts you had suppressed coming up, mixed with other thoughts, too. if you don't believe that telepathy or receiving thoughts can happen you can say that it's dependant of the serotonin stuff.



@ twicon

strangely, i had experiences very similar to yours. i had the idea of it being some strange entitiy sucking my energy out of me, maybe some kind of invisible ghostlike creature, like some kind of drone of a energy-sucker-ghost-species :mrgreen: . of course this sounds absurd, but after feeling it, i really had considered it. it might be, that the previously described only exists in my mind and my mind let it appear so real.
i especially considered it, because i had the feeling of being really connected to my "body" in that moments.
well, if it was only in my mind and thus my mind letting it appear as real as it can appear, there would be no difference for me in determining if it really sucked the energy out of me or if i just imagined it by thinking it was real, because the effect was a very strong feeling of drain, shock and high alertness.


greetings

 

[twicon]

wtf? happent again yesterday after a year or more..but milder.
was very tired and watching tv and i was falling asleep slowly and had minor sleep paralysis and waked immediately,that happent 2-3 times so i keeped me awake till i fall asleep without that feeling...
could this conversation triggered some buried feelings,thoughts ? weird..


The Nightmare, by Henry Fuseli (1781) is thought to be one of the classic depictions of sleep paralysis perceived as a demonic visitation


damn it!! :evil: why doesnt succubus visit me?? :lol:

 

[BrainEater]

you mean the conversation between you and the TV?

well...i guess it depends...
it depends on what is being seen by your mind. if you were in a trancelike state and if there was not much work to do for the revisors or whatever it is that stores all the infos in the brain, information like thoughts or feelings could have come up that were buried below the surface of mind.

I guess we just aren't "designed" to be conscious while entering dream land?? Smile

yes..... lol

 

[thadivine]

yeah, certainly recognize this too.

I quite recently had a really strenge thing like this and i got a voice in my head telling me really nasty shit...Not pleasant.
But just the paralisis is not so bad at all i think...i think i have it really often?

And i never used MDMA, so that cant be the thing...perhaps i naturally have low serotonin? or really high or something? Dunno...

well this can be thoughts you receive from other people, while being very sensitivized (tuning into dream-state=sensitivized?), unconsciously of course. it could be thoughts you had suppressed coming up, mixed with other thoughts, too. if you don't believe that telepathy or receiving thoughts can happen you can say that it's dependant of the serotonin stuff.

Well yeah, i do believe in telepathy. i think its pretty easy to explain it too through collective consious and things, could well have to do with something like that.


Well it was a pretty strange experience. Before i fell asleep i started like medtitating on some kind of DMT spirit, i called it. It was really strange couse i never do things like that. And I dont even know if i believe the things..
well anyway, i started asking like what i need to know.
Perhaps i opened something up where not so good things came through...

In the middle of the night i woke up in panic. Other voices then my own thought in my head. Started conversating with them. It/They told me and a good friend where to die in a certain amount of hours. Later the voice told me he was joking about me but it said nothing about the friend. So i remained pretty like. FUCK, i REALLY hope this is not some kind of vision or something.
After that I really got afraid to be be kidnapped by aliens or something. That they might inplant me with something that would let me lose my open mind.
It was really intense fear i would lose my open mind and opinion towards people and things.
After that i thought like hmm, i meditated or something on DMT, and what is used to control DMT in the amazon>? Ayahuasca. So i was pretty hopeless but started focussing on the Ayahuasca spirit. Asked it to help me...There was 1 last voice telling me why dont you kill yourself? but then i managed to ignore it and focussing on Ayahuasca i managed to fall asleep again...All this time i was paralyzed and i couldnt even move thanks to the fear...

It was pretty fucking strange :shock: Like a bizarre dream happening for real..

And no im not kind of psycho kid but it was really fucked up, i said to myself, yeah, if i was trippin right now i would be able to manage it but i am not trippin! how can this be, i didnt took anything??

As a kid i really believed, no i KNEW, there where spirits/ghosts. Even had a spirit friend when i was little, later i got afraid of the spirits. At that time i saw pretty strong aura's and things too...If you believe in that.

I grew up and lost track of it. Though gained a huge interest in butterflies and mushrooms...
Lost track of that too and discovered psychedelics a while back. As i gained interest i started to see auras a lil again and felt when people where to contact me and things..


FUCK man, i guess i am what they call an "indigo child", but why me?? I dont understand? I cant live a useless life based on money as most people, i feel i got a mission and my future is yet to be written..
I am glad to have this but its so difficult to be different at all times. Im like always aware or something...Life could be so simple but i gotta live it the hard way i guess..

FUCK man..

 

[kcar181]

(Sorry for the offtopicness)

My best friend and I have had many instances where we call each other as the other was dialing or both phones would be busy due to the other calling at the same time.

As well as saying bizarre phases or words at the same time not even closely related to the conversation.

Could just be a close bond of friendship but I like to keep an open mind.

and thadivine you ever try to practice with auras and such? A friend of mine is wiccin and says she can see auras. sounds interesting.

 

[????????]

wow and I thought I had it rough... I didn't see beings or heard voices... it was just a FEELING, like an ubiquitous evil presence that wouldn't go away...

thadivine: you should meditate...

 

[thadivine]

@kcar, no i didnt ever practice with it or anything, i just see them, especially during certain activities or stoned. Around trees and people.
Yeah, perhaps i should look for someone who can tell me what and how i can use it for.

@ i cant write your name
Yeah, perhaps i should. Sometimes i do it naturally, but i find it hard to just go sit and concentrate. Not the sitting in concentration part but just taking the time to do it.


Anyway, it isnt all so bad, i can easily live with it and i am glad to have it. Just had to lose it for a moment :lol: .