DMSO (for restoring health)

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Oh sure I'll find them, tea tree oil in my opinion is not meant to be used pure unless you really wanna DESTROY your skin and the pathogens in there, it's really powerful.

I never use DMSO alone, I always coat my hands in shea butter before applying it and after, and also the region that was treated, this drags the good vitamins in your skin and prevents it from dehydrating too much.

Well in the meantime, look at that article I searched google for "garlic + DMSO" and psychonaut was the two first hits, then a few hits later there was this :

http://www.relfe.com/health_benefits_of_garlic.html

Which is basically a woman that tell you garlic is a poison and people using it are as stupid as woman who drug their children with morphine so they sleep.

It's funny... when I see articles like this I understand the fierce opposition I faced here ! Garlic desynchronises brainwaves... lol yeah right if you're already an undead. I bet we will see more of this crap pouring in as the years go. There will be articles for health for the living, and others for the undead.

I wouldn't even be surprised they give em red and blue colors and make polls about them. This would be flabberpatheculous !

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Theres a few articles about natural antivirals :

http://www.anandaapothecary.com/article ... -oils.html

Usually the problem with these is getting them to penetrate deep into tissue, well DMSO does just that, but it would take a while and since these compounds are kind of irritant you cannot "abuse" them to sterelize your body, so it has to be used along with other modalities.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=8817183

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1985NW.....72..659K

http://invent.ucsd.edu/technology/cases ... -043.shtml

and ... ooooh :

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:aZh ... =clnk&cd=6

Yes yes... it seems science is only opening the door, 99% still needs to be found

 

[GOD]

I looked at them and theres nothing relevant there .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Relevant to what ? Since when do you speak like a b0rg ? :S

You asked me more info, here is some, take it or leave it. I have not had the flu or anything similar in a year, and I don't plan on getting it again ; well I'll get it of course, but the symptoms I mean.

 

[GOD]

"Relevant to what ?"

To mixing esential oils with DMSO and rubbing that into the skin of a living human to kill virii .

I said "Was it virii in lab glass or on human skin or in the human body ?" and "Have you any sources of pertinent imformation for us please ?" .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

They're not going to fund such research, we're on our own on this one... they want to sell you expensive pills.

Some people will have to try... even if they would find one of the oxidation products of allicin contains a powerful antiviral and that is can be dissolved in DMSO and injected intravenously and cure AIDS in a few weeks, they're obviously not going to tell you.

They'll perhaps even take 20 years until they find a synthetically modifiable, patentable variant that they will make sure is not too effiscient so they can sell treatments over many years before they even admit that.

Someone is going to have to try them ! Thats the only way.

Yes most of the time they're in vitro tests... but we know the compounds are anti-viral and powerfully so, the trouble is that most of such viruses hide inside the spine and the dense nerves and cartilage there makes it hard for the substance to permeate the body, DMSO might be one key to that, but certainly not the only cure, there will need to be cerebrospinal circulation as in chigong practice or yoga, and probably other technologies, like rife blood cleaning and infrared heating, ultrasound massage.

I cannot see why with our infinite creativity we could not find something. But as we can see they manage to keep us barely with enough money to eat... heck everyone I know that explores those alternatives are even being ripped off by their own friends, all their efforts is met with disastrous moneylessness, another frank proof of the nature of the "matrix" around us.

And on the other side of the spectrum there are those who realise how powerful they are, and drag the chi of the earth and experience "miraculous" healing while the earth is dying. I could heal myself that way easily, but earth is deeply sick and needs all the energy she can get, so thats why I explore those avenues.

 

[Pariah]

Charley,

My BS sense is tingling:

"they will make sure is not too effiscient"

"they're obviously not going to tell you."

"they want to sell you expensive pills."

"They're not going to fund such research"


Who are "they"?

"viruses hide inside the spine and the dense nerves and cartilage there makes it hard for the substance to permeate the body"

- This is nonsense as far as I'm aware - viruses "hide" in cells, as DNA or RNA. and any intravenous chemical with the right makeup will be able to "permeate the body" - what is special about DMSO is that it goes through the *skin* (doesn't have to be intravenous).


I've already stated that DMSO *helps* virus replication, now your saying its going to cure aids!!!!

 

[Meduzz]

Lots of stuff is anti-viral and anti-bacterial. The trick is finding something that isn't anti-human...

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

What a great intuition Meduzz...

Thats the only down side to DMSO, it's the alter ego of water, if you let it take over, it changes the structure of water in your body and creates a kind of insiduous degeneration thats not yet medically recognized by medicine. As you know DMSO is obligatory use in professional sports medicine.

hmm hmm...

And the only thing it's approved for is interstitial cystis ? Oh but in the us that means that if it's prescribed for one thing, your doctor can prescribe it to you for anything.

BUT they wont agree with doctors from all around the world about its others benefits.

It can even prevent you from being irreparably damaged from a stroke it it's injected IV right after.

So the thing to reach into the spine is not to put DMSO alone, you're right that might help a immunoresistant virus.

But what if you load it with a good and potent natural antiviral, and apply it liberally, my guess is it would "soak the spine" with antiviral and if it does not kill it completely, it would seriously deter its progress.

You need to make your BS sense self-suffiscient Pariah , think for yourself !

DMSO has been proven to reduce the use of about any MONEY MAKING medicine known. Real tests have been done with insulin for example, add a little DMSO to it, and you just reduced the need by 25 % like that.

Erectile drugs ? a few mg and rub the DMSO there, your pill will last 10 times as long and wont make your brain and whole body like an erection ; much less side effects !

The list goes on an on, and DMSO isn't patentable, is kinda cheap, there's no money to be made from it. It also goes against ALL anti-inflammatories, DMSO is plainly better.

The only thing is what I say, it can be dangerously addictive, and in the hands of someone who isn't sensitive enough to know when to stop, it can be dangerous.

Yes virii hide in cells, but what better place than where most people have the less blood circulation to breed, you knew about this you're just being lazy

I read many medicine journal articles about herpes hiding in the spine for example (thats why it comes out sometimes and they call it attacks) then the mimmune system goes crazy and it goes back in its fort.

Think about it for a moment... theres a kind of double "conspiracy" with this thing going on. Those that try that it not be known because it reduces their income, and those who wanna put them on people so much they turn "unhuman aka living dead". It does replace water as a solvent in the body, and remains in circulation for up to 16 days ; think what happens to your grain if you put it everyday, it accumulates and the body takes a liking to it !

NOT TO BE USED EVERYDAY WITHOUT DOCTOR SUPERVISION !!!

Food for thought.

 

[Pariah]

"DMSO has been proven to reduce the use of about any MONEY MAKING medicine known"

So does rescue remedy - that doesn't mean it works.


"there's no money to be made from it."

... there's money to be made from anything (including DMSO) if you can fool people into thinking it will cure them. Again, think rescue remedy: get a solution of water and alcohol, costing next to nothing, then market it as a cure for "whatever ailes ye", with a price tag 100's or 1000's of time the cost of production... you then become very rich.

"what better place than where most people have the less blood circulation to breed"

somewhere with a proper blood flow for one - viruses *use* other cells metabolism to produce new particles - the faster the cells metabolism, the more output. Also viruses often infect specific cell types, and in certain areas.

Let me clarify the stuff about cerebrospinal fluid: they are not "breeding" in the spinal fluid, they stay as part of a *cell's* DNA/RNA, (lytic phase, I think its called), and can start producing particles when the environment is better (if the host is under stress), if the virus is activated, particles will be released, and find their way into the spinal fluid.

Whats important about that? well, it means the virus cannot be touched by *anything*!!! without damaging the host cell DNA/ killing host.

"you knew about this you're just being lazy"

I've just demonstrated your talking nonsense, please stop making medical claims about things you don't understand:

IT CAN AND DOES GET PEOPLE KILLED

(I can't state this enough).

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

You've just showed you know so much but are truely lazy, in communicating AND corroborating. Instead of adding to current research you choose to ignore that it saved lives too, and you are using all your energy to show how much you feel bad about yourself in making people look wrong.

You even just stated it might not work, there is over 3000 very conclusive medical papers on DMSO, I've read almost a hundred, they are very detailed.

You are also generalising, and giving stupid examples like you are speaking to a 5 yo.

You are being pathetic, what an attitude !

If there is one thing I hate in life is see great potentials like you eat meat and shit a stinky death. uke:

I use DMSO very often, the releif in my pain and general discomfort cannot be compared with anything I've tried before, it's not only almost instantaneous, but it's also long term and usually I don't need to apply it often.

It makes me sick how much pages I had to sift through to find real info about DMSO, most of the studies look PRIVATELY funded to prove it's a bad thing ; they use it pure and say : Oh we have to stop the study their skin is blistered and red ... IDIOTS ! and then : we use 5% and 70% DMSO and found no difference... no difference exept it can blister your skin, why the heck DMSO use would be mandatory in professional sports team... why would they bathe 5 millions $ worth horses in it ?!

Next thing we'll learn is that in their famous FDA trials, they have fed people diets full of refined sugars and no ionic minerals. Oh the private sports team doctor know how much it's important to give electrolyte full water to drink and bathe in while using DMSO... but the FDA, DUH, they're not experts in anything... they don't know what they're doing obviously.

Next thing you'll post me an article by quackwatch ?!

Freakin ludicrous, it really makes me want to puke. Who's making medical claims ? I'm not a freakin doctor, and for your information if someone is stupid enough to experiment on his own after reading a few posts on a forum, then he's stupid enough to do many other much more dangerous things. We're discussing the subject, you're being a jackass. I'm sure millions of people use DMSO and are feeling just fine !

http://myhealth.ucsd.edu/library/health ... hn-1279006

I firmly believe that if all the medicines could be sunk to the bottom of the sea, it would be better for mankind -- and all the worst for the fishes. Oliver Wendell Holmes, 1980

You know I agree with you on what you say, you're just jacquing off to the idea that some of them might be good, sometimes. We're not extremists !

Ahu : Shit I cut myself yesterday and it became infected, I'm in pain I think it will spread and were in the middle of the woods with nothing but this first aid kit.
Pariah : oh lemme see those things are usually filled with useless stuff... there, oh crap this is a veterinary kit with only questionable DMSO and salycilic acid in it, it dosen't even mention the purity. *throws the bottle down the cliff*
Ahu : What are you doing man !
Pariah : I'm sorry it's going to take days before we get back into town... you're going to have to get your leg amputated, lets start walking now ; to the hospital we go ; *mumbles* even if I beleive they're shitheads with no talent like me.

So many people use it it's hard to beleive the fierce opposition it gets :

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/weis13.htm

You remember the scandal about the sugar industry ? Splenda was proven much safer than aspartame, it was sweet, kinda good tasting and wasn't processed by the body. The cane sugar refineries were caught trying to spread rumors that splenda was like aspartame and created tons of side effects, this was ruled agains the sugar industry in court.

You think that wouldn't happen for something like DMSO ?

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/jul ... mso_01.htm

http://www.newtreatments.org/Iron-Crohn (DMSO)/ga/60/2.%20Medical%20Studies%20proof%20the%20DMSO%20theory%20(updated%20!)

[quote:3nw2igww]DMSO AS A POTENTIATOR
Drodney F. Pommier, M.D. and associates at the Oregon Health Sciences University in Portland Oregon studied the cancer killing effects of DMSO, chemotherapeutic drugs (adriamycin, vinblastine, 4-fluorouracil, cisplatin), and the combination of the two on five human tumor cell lines. The five human tumor cell lines were Hep-2 (squamous cell carcinoma of the larynx), HEC- 1A (adenocarcinoma of the endometrium), CAKI-1 (adenocarcinoma of the kidney), HT- 29 (adenocarcinoma of the colon) and MCF-7(adenocarcinoma of the breast). The authors summarized the study as follows: "Five human tumor reference cell lines were tested in vitro against 0 percent, 5 percent, and 10 percent DMSO; four antineoplastic agents; and combinations of 5 percent or 10 percent DMSO plus each antineoplastic agent. Synergistic cytotoxicity between DMSO and antineoplastic agents against each cell line were demonstrated. We have concluded that delivery of standard doses of antineoplastic agents in 5 percent or 10 percent DMSO may be useful in the treatment of some tumors because of the marked increase in tumoricidal effect seen with some DMSO and drug combinations. Alternatively, lower doses of antineoplastic agents might be delivered in DMSO, producing the same cytotoxic effect as a full dose of drug without DMSO but with less systemic toxicity."(Pommier, R. “Cytotoxicity of Dimethyl Sulfoxide and Antineoplastic Combinations Against Human Tumors

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

And completely out of the health literature, there's interesting stuff too...

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/b ... 1/art00002

http://www.springerlink.com/content/nk5r862km77g764u/

And just to piss Pariah off I will post this video :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0i7jARf ... re=related

its in many parts

 

[GOD]

" I've read almost a hundred,"

But you havent understood them . Try less reading and more understanding and discerning .

" like you are speaking to a 5 yo."

You are acting and talking like a 5 year old . Calm down and start thinking straight . Concentrate on reality and not on wierdo esoteric shit .

"I use DMSO very often, the releif in my pain and general"

Are you sure its not placebo or just that you are killing nerve cells ?

"It makes me sick how much pages I had to sift through to find real info about DMSO, most of the studies look PRIVATELY funded to prove it's a bad thing"

Thats called paranoia and living in your own private fantasy world .

" they don't know what they're doing obviously."

Scientists dont but you do ? See my last answer .

"Who's making medical claims ? I'm not a freakin doctor"

EXACTLY . You are making claims based on irelevant selected pseudo evidence that you claim backs your claims .

"Can you moderate AND substantiate your comments ?!"

You should do that , and stop critisising people who dont believe the confused unsubstantiated shit that you preach as fact .

You have "thought" yourself into a corner and the more it becomes obvious the more you reject other peoples rational thinking and arguments and the more wierdo esoteric loony shit you believe and preach . You are the best advert against the things you claim . You are unbelievable . You have knowledge and are an intelligent guy but you have blinded yourself with irational bullshit . Maybe its DMSO and tea tree oil nerve damage ?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Thanks for confirming what I said in two different places

Hope you have a sweet day !

That was 11:22 post , oh yes Tiamat, keep em coming ! 8)

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

You have "thought" yourself into a corner and the more it becomes obvious the more you reject other peoples rational thinking and arguments and the more wierdo esoteric loony shit you believe and preach . You are the best advert against the things you claim . You are unbelievable . You have knowledge and are an intelligent guy but you have blinded yourself with irational bullshit . Maybe its DMSO and tea tree oil nerve damage ?

:?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Thats a funny tought...

As if I couldn't live emotions or perform any other task.

I'm just angry, and you all tremble in fear. Some for ther right reasons, others well who knows what you have in mind.

On one had we can talk about brain plasticity, and you guys can see the video of a doctor who heals trauma patients with DMSO liberally. Then you all think it can create damage worse than a trauma.

I'm really starting to think the quality of the contributions is decreasing here.

I'm loosing enthusiasm too.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Looking for someone,
I guess I'm doing that
Trying to find a memory in a dark room
Dirty man, you're looking like a Buddha - I know you well
Yeaugh

Keep on a straight line
I don't believe I can,
Trying to find a needle in a haystack,
Chilly wind you're piercing like a dagger - it hurts me so.
Yeaugh

Nobody needs to discover me - I'm back again.
You see the sunlight through the trees, to keep you warm
in peaceful shades of green
Yet in the darkness of my mind
Damascus wasn't far behind.

Lost in a subway,
I guess I'm losing time.
There's a man looking at a magazine
You're such a fool, your mumbo-jumbo never tells me anything
Yeaugh

Nobody needs to discover me I'm back again
You feel the ashes from the fire that kept you warm
its comfort disappears
And still the only friend I know
Will never tell me where I go

Looking for someone and now I've found myself a name
Come away - leave me - all that I have I will give
Leave me - leave me - all that I am I will give

Genesis- Trespass - Looking for someone