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Can psilo be a crystalized alkaloid?

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Ultima a dit:
BlimeyGrimey a dit:
Brugmansia a dit:
For smoking it...

vaporizing 4-HO-DMT (Psilocin). It evidently works and is comparable to smoking DMT and/or 5-MeO-DMT.

By the way, Psilocybin is 4-PO-DMT.

is this true?


yeah maybe you could vaporize psylocibin, but maybe the taste of the vapour would be ugly ??? i don't know.... interesting that psylocibin contains freebase DMT.
 
Psilocybin cannot be a freebase. It is a zwitterion.

A zwitterion (first part pronounced "tsvitter", from German "Zwitter" — "hybrid," "hermaphrodite") is a chemical compound that is electrically neutral but carries formal positive and negative charges on different atoms.[1] Zwitterions are polar and usually have a high solubility in water and a poor solubility in most organic solvents.

Some drugs such as methamphetamine, MDMA, and mescaline are strong-smelling, corrosive oily yellow liquids when in base form and so are rarely ingested as bases, instead almost always being encountered as the hydrochloride or sulfate salts.

Ever read your cold medicine packages. Ever see HCL after a drug? Like pseudophedrine HCL. HCL is the form you would ingest, it is the acid form of a drug.

Freebase would be the base form of a drug and is usually the form it has to be in to be active when inhaled through the lungs.

Zwitterions are neutral meaning they are neither a base nor an acid.
 
thx! i understand it 8)
mini spice you kick ass :P
 
This is all very interesting. In my youth we smoked mushrooms before (who hasnt :roll: haha) to no effect, but I have always pondered about removing active ingredients to produce a powerful extract.

How practical is this really?

And does anyone have any pictures on this shit? I would love to see what it looks like... Psilocybin crystals :shock:
 
Meduzz a dit:

Thats a good everclear extraction walk-through, the same method that I previously explained. The only thing I would change is instead of chopping the mushrooms you should grind them in a coffee grinder. A finely grounded powder will have more extracted from it than large chunks. Same goes for making tea.
 
Scientists extract with either ethanol , methanol , water or vinegar/water .
 
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