ayahuasca please help

[sidefx]

i am planning to chew bout 3 grams o syrian rue seeds.thats the MAOI.

But cannot B botherred chasing up a dmt source. I need help i am thinking of buying some pure extracted dmt crystals to mix with seeds, how much do u recommend for medium dose. is this dmt dangerouse? wiill the chemicals used to extract it still be present if so will they b harmful? please help B4 i do something stupid. THNX

 

[user_1919]

Good luck chewing syrian rue...You should grind the seeds fine, and then wrap them into a tissue or something, and 'parachute' the little syrian rue packet. Make them small so they go down easily.

DMT is not dangerous. It is found in many many plants and even your own body. IF you get pure DMT how can their be other chemical in the DMT if it is P U R E...?? Also usually about 30 mgs is sufficent for a dose. I could be wrong. I know that 30 mg is a good starting dose to smoke freebase DMT.

 

[????????]

Hey you seem to be rushing a bit no? I advice you do dome reading before trying DMT, here on the forums are lots of topics; also erowid, etc

 

[user_1919]

Yes, you should do some reading. Also if you are planning on taking this substance to have some fun, or get 'high'. PLEASE do not take ayahuasca, it will quickly mess you up and spit you out. Ayahuasca is not a recreational drug at all!!It is a teacher.

PEACE

 

[GOD]

High sidefx ,

If you look here there are some good books for free that you could read and would probably help you , If you read the whole thread you will find some more new adresses at the end .

http://www.psychonaut.com/index.php?opt ... fb&lang=en

 

[Forkbender]

technically this would be an ayahuasca analogue. I think it would be different from a banisteriopsis caapi/psychotria viridis mix, as there are probably other alkaloids involved.

If you do go ahead with this, I would suggest boiling the ground up syrian rue in water with some lemonjuice. In this way, the harmala can be extracted and your body doesn't need to process everything (which can take a lot of time, by which the DMT might be destroyed in your stomach).

 

[GOD]

P.Harmala is not psychoactive on its own . I`m not a fan of adding acids to P.Harmala to help extraction because it allready contains vitamin C and it could also be the source of stomach problems . The MAOIs in P.Harmala seem to be very easily extracted in the stomach . If you want it to work faster grind them and then simmer them in a little water and filter them with a coffee filter and press them out . Take the P.Harmala 30 minutes before the DMT part to allow the MAOI to work fully before you take the DMT part . The DMT part should be between 25 and 50 mgs and the P.Harmala part 3 gramms . The chemical make up of Banisteropsis Caapi is different than that of P.Harmala so the effects would be a little different , but i`m sure that the difference would not be enough for a person to be able to say wich was wich if he wasnt told what he had taken .

 

[HeartCore]

P. Harmala can be active on its own, nothing compared to DMT but for sure it can induce a trip. This is experientally proven but also chemically, whenever you take a MAO, levels of indigenous bufotenine are entering your blood stream. Bufotenine in itself ,can be psychoactive as well. Also, MAOI's increase serotonin levels in your blood which also can make you feel different

 

[GOD]

"P. Harmala can be active on its own, nothing compared to DMT but for sure it can induce a trip. This is experientally proven but also chemically, whenever you take a MAO, levels of indigenous bufotenine are entering your blood stream. Bufotenine in itself ,can be psychoactive as well. Also, MAOI's increase serotonin levels in your blood which also can make you feel different"

1:- Please show me proof that P.Harmala on its own can induce a trip other than a placebo / psychelogical one , and tell me / prove in what dose ?
2:- Please show me proof that P.Harmala contains MAO ?
3:- Please explain to me how taking MAO , that a human body produces and contains very much of can cause a trip ?
4:- Please prove that Bufotenine is an hallucinogen ?
5:- Please show me evidence that the human body contains Bufotenine ?
6:- Please prove that if it is an hallucinogen , and that the body contains it , that the body contains enough to cause a trip with MAO ?
7:- Please explain to me why a human being does not get a trip with the MAO that his body allready contains and the Bufotenine that you say it contains ?
8:- Please explain the documented case of a man who ate over a hundred gramms of P.Harmala and didnt have a trip ?
9:- Please explain to me why the people who use and have used P.Harmala as a digestive aid all across the midle east and north africa for the last few thousands years didnt / dont have trips ?
10:- Please explain the reports from J.Ott , C.Rätsch and A.Shulgin that say P.Harmala is not hallucinogenic ? Or are they all wrong ???
11:- Please show your experimental and chemical proof for all of your answers to those questions ? Not just subjective storys from unvalidated sources ? Real believable objective provable proof ?

And "feel different" is not a trip .

Love and Peace