Astrology

[Caduceus Mercurius]

your 9th lord (which denotes higher education and spiritual knowledge) is well placed in the fifth house of your chart. Your moksha house (the 12th house) is also strong with the two benefics Venus and Mercury in it and the 12th lord Moon conjunct your Jupiter.

It simply means you have 'good karma' (5th house) for 'gaining spiritual wisdom' (9th house) and becoming 'liberated from the shackles of illusion' (12th house). Benefics are planets that by nature bring good results, like Jupiter and Venus, whereas malefics are planets that bring hardships, like Mars and Saturn.

a song from tool.

Saturn comes back around...

i am not in love... except perhaps with myself and cannabis

Very good, very good.

when you say i'm disciplined and can study well does it mean i have what it takes to be an engineer? :wink:

Yes.

 

[GOD]

Theres nothing there other than things youve talked about about yourself since youve been a member here .

 

[????????]

^ :roll:

Saturn comes back around...

oh you know the song! :rock:

so saturn is something of a hard teacher?

 

[Forkbender]

Forkbender, what do you mean with freedom? An astrologer basically studies what choices a person is going to make and what might be the consequences of those choices.

I always had trouble understanding if everything astrology predicts is fate or not. I don't really get how planets influence us and how far that influence reaches.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

oh you know the song!

Yes!!

so saturn is something of a hard teacher?

Definitely, and his transits are slooowww, they take months rather than weeks.

I always had trouble understanding if everything astrology predicts is fate or not. I don't really get how planets influence us and how far that influence reaches.

I don't think they're influencing us, rather we're in synch with them, somehow. And since orbits are predictable, our lives are predictable. But that doesn't make our lives, our choices and our responsibilities any less real.

 

[Forkbender]

I don't think they're influencing us, rather we're in synch with them, somehow. And since orbits are predictable, our lives are predictable. But that doesn't make our lives, our choices and our responsibilities any less real.

Yet orbits don't change (follow a pattern, that can be described by natural laws) and we do. Maybe I don't see it, because I haven't studied it, but that is questionable to say the least.

 

[GOD]

It would mean that fate is already determined .

 

[Forkbender]

^technically fate is always predetermined. It would rather mean that fate exists.

 

[GOD]

OK maybe i used the wrong word . I mean that a persons basic cource in life and what happens to him is predetermined .

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Yes, that's what it would imply. For most New Age people the Free Will concept is like a religion, and so New Age (and religious) astrologers will tell their clients they can always "change their fate", or "transcend their birth chart" etc. You can easily get away with such suggestions when you practice Western astrology, because it has become useless for making predictions (since it uses the tropical rather than the sidereal zodiac).

I don't go along with that. If there is a correlation between (human) life and planetary orbits, it must be an absolute correlation. Which means that from one perspective everything is the expression of fate, everything was predetermined at the Big Bang, there's only one way this universe is going to evolve. Quantum concepts like "probablity" and "parallel universes" lose their meaning. There's only one way the universe is evolving, and that's the way we've been experiencing it so far. This seems to imply that we have no free will, unless we go beyond that ego-istic concept and understand that we are an expression of the free will of the universe as a whole.

 

[Brugmansia]

Astrology, take benefit out of this wealth for yourself in silence, because once you start interacting about it with other people, it pulls the smart-alec out of them.