Abstinence

[Forkbender]

I was very creative, but it all happened in my head. It turned me inward and I realised I can do that anytime I want without the weed. Maybe it is just a natural tendency of me to turn inward, but still.

 

[st.bot.32]

totally, i didn't really start smoking until a few years ago (and only very occasionally at first), so the vast majority of my creative projects in my life have been done without weed.

weed can definitely teach you some things, but you can only open the door so many times, and less frequently the longer you've been using

i really like being sober anyway, if you toke too often it's easy to forget what you are capable of when you are sober. a friend of mine put it nicely last year when we toked together for the first time. "it's a great place to visit, but i wouldn't want to live there"

 

[Jahvisions]

Yes very recognizable, I have problems falling asleep all my life also because of running thoughts. I am so jelous at people who can fall asleep I a second. I believe it's already a fact that your rest isn't better while sleeping on cannabis. The productivity is a fact too I believe.

For me it's only different in using it. I think I just have my 'periods'. I have some periods I smoke like a joint every evening and make that two on friday and saturday. After a while I get tired from it too. Then I only smoke on friday and saturday. The first two, three days I dream aand sweat a lot and then it's over. For a long time I do like this, I get two gram on friday and smoke on friday and saturday, when I've something left in a busy period I just wait till friday and else I smoke an extra joint on sunday or a day in the week, I don't buy any new stash. Sometimes I have a week of and then smoke almost everyday again but after that I get my to my 'old' pattern. This works fine for me.

 

[Space-is-the-Place]

Sometimes when I smoke (or actually very very often) I get really introverted.
That might explain my long periods of hermitting...

Bling! Sometimes the light just pops on :idea:

 

[st.bot.32]

i'm not outgoing by nature. weed can make me very introverted, i find it intensely psychoanalytical, quite reminiscent of psychedelics.

i deliberately vary the set/setting in which i toke for this reason.. to include appropriate social settings. 50/50 alone, with others is ideal for me

last year i rolled up a fat joint mixed with hash and smoked the whole thing at a dance party. there was an hour where all i could do was listen to the music, the sound was bouncing between my closed eyelids. after that something unexpected happened.. i just became far more outgoing and social than i am when i'm sober, i was randomly going around talking to just everyone, and listening. and having a great time. also gave me some personal insights into confronting my introverted tendencies.

 

[ararat]

Well after seeing a really clear Fork at CM's meeting I finally decided to do the same thing.
It has been 27 hours so far
But I'm really serious about it.
At the meeting I wasn't feeling quite myself, had a good time nonetheless, but I think people could've experienced more Space if I had been more clear.
Kind of had the feeling that Fork knew, but that might just be my paranoia and his intriguing look

sounds like a good thing to do. people haven't been experiencing a lot of Misery the last few months either... (I really ought to change my name.)
also the high gets boring and it's gone way faster when you smoke all the time..
so be it, I'll see how far I come.

 

[toogoodforyou]

Its like sex the less one abuses it the better it is .

+1

 

[Space-is-the-Place]

Well, so far so good.
I am quite sick though (wich, for the record, didn't stop me before )

 

[Brugmansia]

Congrats! It's not like you're saying mary-jane goodbye, on the contrary. She'll show you her side as an entheogen (she's terrific in maintaining your short and long-term memory!) rather than a deeper connection with extended senses and hanging in the now.

You've had the daily lessons of being critical, transparant and subtle observations on everthing you can encounter. If you're sober, you'll notice you've lost nothing of this transparant awareness, you already knew the message of cannabis.

At first, smoking daily/often puts you more into being alive, but later on, it actually holds you more into your own seat but it's hard detect yourself because you think you're assertive due to the presence of streaming inner thoughts.

 

[Space-is-the-Place]

Thanks Brug

I've already had a lot of experiences with Mary as an entheogen, through spacecake and hashchocolates.
And Im even considering doing that on a more regular basis (once a month or once every other month) after I've been off smoking for a while.
I'm also very interested in Fork's findings

 

[Forkbender]

I probably do a deep space exploration next week on some hasheesh (orally ingested). I'm looking forward to it like I do to a psychedelic experience, which is totally different than the disrespectful attitude I had in the past. I've noticed, like Brugmansia said, that I was able to keep the insights/awareness that I had while on cannabis.

 

[st.bot.32]

sounds great.. taking hash that way, especially after a break can be an immense experience, have you tried it before?

 

[Forkbender]

Sure, I guess about 30 times in total, mostly on doses where I could go out and dance my green socks off, but I guess about 10 times for going deep. I never did it after a month + of abstinence, though, so I guess it would be a bit more special.

 

[GOD]

How much are you going to eat , how and how are you going to prepare ?

 

[Forkbender]

I was thinking about 1 gram of decent hash. My experience is usually with .25-.5 grams, but I am interested to find out what is beyond that.
I'll dissolve it in some butter or milk. Maybe I'll make something special, enough recipes around.

I will prepare by relaxing as much as possible and maybe get some exercise. I already eat healthy, so I'm just going to maintain that. Mentally I do what I always do, go over how I am feeling about my life and what is important to me, ponder about questions I ask myself lately and not overanalyse. I'll put on some good music and lift-off. I don't have a specific goal, except maybe a vague hint at finding out unhidden truths, but I trust myself and cannabis enough to take me where I need to be and not avoid the important things.

 

[GOD]

Are you going to not eat before hand ?

If i were you i`d powder it and either mixit with 125 grams of joghurt and a tea spoon full of sugar or mix the powder with half a cup full of milk and a teaspoon full of sugar and warm it up . If you piut it in anything bigger like a cake it will come on slower and not be so strong .

I think the only thing to take care about is not to go to sleep .

 

[Forkbender]

I'll make sure it is my breakfast.

I have fallen asleep twice before after eating hasheesh, but those were in the days I was still relatively new to it. The dose might influence this, though. Any tips for staying awake?

 

[GOD]

I dont think its a good idea to eat it just after you have woken up . Give yourself a bit of time to come into the day and have your morning coffee or tea and have a shit . It can be a bit hard taking drugs just after wakeing .

Staying awake is will power and being aware . I often fell asleep and just enjoyed the sleep . If it happens it happens and then you can enjoy the thought of waiting a month or more and doing it again .

I came to the conclusion that smokeing cannabis every six weeks or more is the best way to get realy high each time . Its also the cheepest . 3 days of smokeing and then stopping is not hard and it didnt interfere with my sleep patern , or stop me dreaming .

Its going to rock your socks off , have fun .

 

[Forkbender]

I dont think its a good idea to eat it just after you have woken up . Give yourself a bit of time to come into the day and have your morning coffee or tea and have a shit . It can be a bit hard taking drugs just after wakeing .

Yeah, I think you're right, I wasn't planning on taking it just after waking up, just meant to say that I wouldn't eat breakfast and wait about 2 hours after waking before I take it.

 

[GOD]

Sounds good to me and want to hear how it is .