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Writing a paper on integration of negative trips.

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I would like all the experiences, information, opinions, techniques, etc you have used and have that pertain to negative trips.

the DMT-Nexus has a program going on to write a book pertaining to ayahuasca particularly, but many sections deal with all types of entheogens. I am writing the subsection "Troubleshooting with duality" (title to be revised), in the section "Re-integration: dealing with 'coming home'"

If you'd like to submit personal experiences to me, or anything else I will make sure you are given awesome credits, and such, thanks doods.
 
I have a gooder for you, it'll be typed up and sent soon enough! What's the name of the book?
 
Nanacapilli a dit:
I have a gooder for you, it'll be typed up and sent soon enough! What's the name of the book?

Thanks man, called Enigmaticus
 
HEY!
 
Once on ~5g of psilocybin mushrooms, I was tripping in sensory deprivation (blindfold in a dark room, in a dark closet, plus white noise radio static between FM channels). I surfed hyperspace. The FM noise told many stories; of the cosmos, of alien intelligence. I felt myself as the evolutionary tree of all the organisms which had produced this body and moment. I explored the spectrum of animal subjective experiences. Amongst the swimming of hyperspace, at times I found myself emerging to the surface, entangled in the symbolic mind. Thinking about thinking about thinking. Thinking about how I shouldn't be thinking so much, and how I shouldn't be thinking about that either. I knew I had to just breathe, if only I could stop thinking about how I needed to stop thinking. Things started to get hellish. My first instinct was to escape; to get up, turn on the lights, and run out to find my friends. But how do you run from yourself? I knew this was not what I should do. Instead I remained where I was and confronted the Cthulu-like beast into which the world had anthropometamorphised. Remembering the teachings of Leary and Buddhism, I knew I was not to fight nor run from nor become attached to any of these visions. I knew I was producing these images, I knew the beast was me. To fight it was to fight myself; I knew this was not what I should do either. I tried not to succumb to fear. I tried not to put up my fists. But things were getting darker, scarier. Suddenly, a possible course of action become intuitively clear. I pursued. I looked right into the eyes of the monster, and said: "Destroy me". I repeated it, under my breath, like a mantra. Destroy me. Destroy me.

Behold, the hell evaporated. The blissful hyperspace perceptions returned, consistently for the rest of the trip. I was astounded at the efficacy of the technique. Upon reflection, this makes total logical sense. The hell is myself, thus I seek self-destruction. I cannot run from myself, I cannot fight myself, I can only pursue my own death. Ego death. After which rebirth inevitably follows.

I find the allegory has helped me in real world situations as well.
(For example: I realized my ex-gf wasn't happy in our relationship. Rather than drag it out or fight for her or guilt her, I came to a greater understanding of her needs and desires, beyond my own. I realized: I was her. I made the end of our relationship as smooth as possible for her. I felt really peaceful and Buddha-like.)

Plagiarise me! XD
 
what a wonderful text, thanks for that :D
 
That was really great! I haven't heard anything from the original writers, if you want, search for the book on DMT-nexus.com

They are wonderful over there.
 
if the title's going to be called "Troubleshooting with duality" you need to go watch/read up on some zen. you probably already know this, but alan watts is the master of all things zen. he even only speaks in a zen (non-dual) fashion
 
I quit on this a long time ago lol, I just can't keep an idea for a book for more than a week.
 
Shapelessness is, because it has no plan, let alone a course :D
 
who said there was going to be a conclusion?
 
the standard format in which one writes an article. systems require boundaries

the philosophical papers tend to be "here's two ends, now YOU figure out how to tie em together" else i doubt we were talking philosophy at all
 
Cortexelus a dit:
Once on ~5g of psilocybin mushrooms, I was tripping in sensory deprivation (blindfold in a dark room, in a dark closet, plus white noise radio static between FM channels). I surfed hyperspace. The FM noise told many stories; of the cosmos, of alien intelligence. I felt myself as the evolutionary tree of all the organisms which had produced this body and moment. I explored the spectrum of animal subjective experiences. Amongst the swimming of hyperspace, at times I found myself emerging to the surface, entangled in the symbolic mind. Thinking about thinking about thinking. Thinking about how I shouldn't be thinking so much, and how I shouldn't be thinking about that either. I knew I had to just breathe, if only I could stop thinking about how I needed to stop thinking. Things started to get hellish. My first instinct was to escape; to get up, turn on the lights, and run out to find my friends. But how do you run from yourself? I knew this was not what I should do. Instead I remained where I was and confronted the Cthulu-like beast into which the world had anthropometamorphised. Remembering the teachings of Leary and Buddhism, I knew I was not to fight nor run from nor become attached to any of these visions. I knew I was producing these images, I knew the beast was me. To fight it was to fight myself; I knew this was not what I should do either. I tried not to succumb to fear. I tried not to put up my fists. But things were getting darker, scarier. Suddenly, a possible course of action become intuitively clear. I pursued. I looked right into the eyes of the monster, and said: "Destroy me". I repeated it, under my breath, like a mantra. Destroy me. Destroy me.

Behold, the hell evaporated. The blissful hyperspace perceptions returned, consistently for the rest of the trip. I was astounded at the efficacy of the technique. Upon reflection, this makes total logical sense. The hell is myself, thus I seek self-destruction. I cannot run from myself, I cannot fight myself, I can only pursue my own death. Ego death. After which rebirth inevitably follows.

I find the allegory has helped me in real world situations as well.
(For example: I realized my ex-gf wasn't happy in our relationship. Rather than drag it out or fight for her or guilt her, I came to a greater understanding of her needs and desires, beyond my own. I realized: I was her. I made the end of our relationship as smooth as possible for her. I felt really peaceful and Buddha-like.)

Plagiarise me! XD

I found this so amazingly healing and insightful Cortexelus. I had an opposite experience many years ago on a powerful magic mushroom trip. Me and a friend had piscked fresh Liberty Caps on the day we tripped. He had chosen some music but wouldn't tell me what it was (it was Oxygene). As we eat the shrooms we had decided to do some painting on these little canvases. Then he put the music on and my trip dramatically began---when i shut my eyes I was flying through the deepest darkest space but through these huge coils which I have envisioned since as a gigantic serpent, and playing hide and seek behind some of the oils were mushroom spirits (duendes) who were wearing very colourful clothes, and were full of mischief. It felt like they were somehow creating my trip

The music then turned really eerie, and --the record was cracked to adding to this strange very anceint noise, and it seemed eternal of course--my inner vision changed to this truly dreadfeul whirlpool made up entirely of dead bodies with staring eyes--like the bodies seen in newsfilm of the nazi concentration camps! And I was being sucked into it.

I FREAKED out, and didn't, like you, just allow it to engulf me, and I regretted this for ages after. It was so traumatizing to me I didn't have inner visuals for quite a while with other shroom trips!
 
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