Would You DO It!!!!!!! Injest a crazy extract?

[Alkoloidian]

oka....About a week ago i had some extra ethno's layin around so i decided to make an extract......here's what i did: i put 2 grms. kratom 5x, 4 grms. waka {kava-kava}, 3 grms virola {red} reisn, yopo made with cebil seeds and lime about 2 grms. , 3 grms justica P., 5 grms wild dagga ,,,,,,grinded ALL these things up and placed them in a glass mason.. coverd the whole concoction in 350 mL of grain alcohol {everclear} then i let that macerate for about 3 days. finally decated and filterd through 110 mesh nylon printing screen {stuff used for keef boxes, grinder pollinators ect.} reapeated the step above again...
so its day 7 and i have finally evaporated all the solvent off. left with a dark redish reisn about 5 grms.............

now im not stupid so i dont want to just take something. i care a little about living................so i dont even want to go into the whole solvent extract, polar, non polar, this comes out with polar this comes out with non polar.
so i do know that the virola reisn came out and the kratom and the yopo and wild dagga and waka {i tasted my fingers after i rooled it into a ball and my whole toung went numb} but bla bla bla bla bla.........

i just want to know what someone thinks and if they could break it down for me {the whole {what alkoloids are in this concotion} ....and tell me if you would smoke it injest it or whatever................

thanks

 

[scamie]

cant take this serious.... sorry man

 

[Dantediv86]

Imo it is an extract of varios substances that are in the solid part of all these spices you named and nothing much , actually, there is less stuff in there i believe than in the solid but of course this being concentrated makes up for what is lost.
i think is duable, make sure the solvent actually evaporated allright. start low dose and wait, then double and wait and so on make sure you wait for, at least, more than 3 hours between a trial and another.

but hey did you do this for real?

 

[Maru]

Kratom, Kava, Wild Daga are relaxing substances. I do not know the others but I guess that yopo is a kind of stimulant.
It is never a good idea for the health to mix antagonist substances. Ingesting very few will do nothing while ingesting more may makes you really sick.

I wonder what you expect from such magic mixture ?! But I understand the curiosity and the childish behavior that push you to mix everything

 

[Dantediv86]

about crazy mixes, and antagonist substances...yesterday it flashed in my mind that tropanes (alkaloids from solanaceae) are antagonists to muscarines as they attach to the muscarinic receptors in the brain and cause the opposite reactions of muscarines (Datura causes cottonmouth, A. Muscaria causes salivation to increase to Trevi fountain levels)...i'm no farmacologist but would anyone know wether datura+muscaria could be worse than just datura? i think it's killer kombo
but maybe integrating Muscaria to datura would make it less risky.
is like Hemlock used as an antidote against nerve gas.

 

[Meduzz]

combinations of uppers and downers can be very interesting.
Shulgin tested the 2 different isomers of MDMA, he found that the one was a stimulant working from 60-120mg, the other was a weak downer with a treshold of 160mg.
but he found that to have the "magic" of MDMA, you should take racemic 50/50 "normal" MDMA.

as for your crazy fucked up extract,
if you want to take it, smoke it.
maybe dry the resin and put it in a joint, starting with small amounts, building up.

let us know about your experience if you do.


peace

 

[Alkoloidian]

yup..........i dunno if i will try it but i do have a friend who volentered to take the ex. if he likes it then i MIGHT try it but then everyones chemical makeup is diffrent.........and call me childish but id rather use the term BORED & CURIOUS....who knows it might totally fuck me up then again make me sick then again do nothing....i think i will smoke it.... fuck the "friend" he wont be here for 3 days....... and yes Dantediv86 i did do this for real!....i have been mixing diffrent "stuff" for a while trying to find something like Dantediv86 was talkn about............a double drug i guess "this much make you tweek this much makes u intoxicated" so on ...yeh its not very healthy but neither is the everyday air we breath and the food we put in our body......................

but i will do this: start off smoke 100-250mg if nothing slightly increase the dose by 50mg and i have enough to eat to so i may do the same with eating it if it does not work smoking......BUT not at the same time or in the same day....................

yeh i will keep everyone posted on here and tell you if im just a jack ass or a mad man

kava+kratom+dagga=relax
yopo+virola+=stimulant
justica P= ????? not much really


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[HeartCore]

Why not get some glue and sniff that?

 

[KingKong]

yopo+virola+=stimulant

Cebil aren't yopo! Yopo contains DMT, cebil contain 5-ho-dmt (bufotenine)! Personnaly, I won't ingest bufotenine!

And virola are a source of dmt and 5-meo-dmt. The two things (cebil and virola) aren't stimulant, but short psychedelic. So, I don't belive that you will have a synergy between the plants you mix! I think you will be juste more sick...

And Dantediv86, I know that an "anditote" to iboga use in afric contain datura. Atropine stop the action of ibogaine (my source are in french... so...). It's not muscaria, but maybe it can interest you...

Bye, and sorry for my poor english!

 

[Dantediv86]

N.p. wou have to excuse my poor english as well, cause what i meant was that i would like to understand to what extent are these substances atagonists to eachother. if i start tripping on Datura (thing that i wouldn't do really at the moment),say, and then i integrate the muscaria, what will happen? is there a sure death? the two substances neutralize eachother? is it a combined trip like MG and datura (in a dose to relieve pain, cramps and nausea)? you just get sick?

about your crazy mix: if the concentration of DMT-like substances are concentrated enough in the yopo and virola you could get slight visuals as well...that is if it is smoked.

however i don't see the danger in doing it
(last famous words)
...thus was discovered that all these substances were the ultimate mix for sure death *TANTAN-TAAAAAAAA* :twisted:

 

[Pinealjerker]

I liked grunge metal before I started doing drugs.

 

[Dantediv86]

off topic:
I still enjoy listening to it sometimes

 

[Alkoloidian]

oka go to our site then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUT I SMOKED IT!!!!!!!!

and so here what i did ...put 50mg into my smoking aparatus.........smoked it..
..............................nothing.............happened..................................
put 50 more mg in it then puffed puffed......................But this time i started feeling very mild sedative so i smoked more.. another 50mg then i was fuckin really really really weirded out...limbs felt heavy as hell and i started to dose off..no heady feeling though just plain ol sedative....regained myself after about 30 min.........and.........put another 100mg in the pipe............after this time of smoking the 100mg all the sedative properties went away.....felt dissapointed at first...so i was like wtf................put 50 more mg of it in the bowl.......after this let me just say i stayed up ALL night long and went to work the next day {today} and im still up! now ive tryed alot of thigs {very stupid}
but this one was kinda weird .......along with the tweek for the first 10 min after visuals were very blury and sharp..............then quickly faded.......
i tryed to smoke some reefer to go to bed but it didnt work after my 2nd hoot i gave up cause i wasnt even getting high...........but i dont think im gonna smoke it again...even though it had a very nice flavor...........to weird for my body..................so it wasnt a complete disater or a failed attempt...........just wierd!!!!!

so their is the conclusion!!!!!!

150mg -sedative
300mg -wierd tweek

and to just let everyone know placebo's dont exsist in my world
i as well as everyone can control thereself..........so i was not imagining the whole thing!

now im starting to feel sick {just ate a big fucking plate of nachos}
so ima layin down!