will this asceticic practice bring ASC & hallucinations?

[sadhak]

ASC = altered state of consciousness
sorry for shortening it but I had to due to characters limit

so basically the idea is that if you keep your mind of certain things like food and sleep it can temporary screw up your neuro-transmitters or something like that and just make your mind start going bananas

do you think that doing all that for 3 days would enough to get hallucinations?:
# fasting
# abstaining from water (at least one day)
# sleep deprivation
# no talking AT ALL with people (including over the internet)
# no company AT ALL (being completely alone for 3 days)
# FULL chastity (including saying no to thoughts which have a sexual nature)
# to meditate a lot during those three days
# no listening to music
# no watching TV
# no video games
# practicing daily astral projection during the course of those three days
# turning all clocks off and closing all windows and doors to avoid finding out what hour it is or if it is day or night

 

[restin]

I guarantee you a full experience of madness.

Don't fast abruptly. just DON'T. Prepare your body with eating less, then only eating soup.

And DRINK.

Sleep deprivation is a very... disputed topic, even in this community. I think this needs a lot of preparation, at least.

 

[IJesusChrist]

Try small experiments first:

Meditation
Listening to the same song over and over
Listening to no music (doesn't do anything for me but make me lazy)
Watch no TV (Does nothing to me)
Stare at a wall for 1 hour. One full hour.

Don't become sleep deprived. It's a great way to make you dumber.
Fasting is a very good thing for you actually, but yes, slowly go into it. Fasting will make your life last longer, as well as keep you a little bit healthier. Drink water, and broth, etc. Fasting for more than 2 or 3 days is bad however.

Try listening to static sound, and meditation.

Try drawing.

 

[sadhak]

Try small experiments first:

Meditation
Listening to the same song over and over
Listening to no music (doesn't do anything for me but make me lazy)
Watch no TV (Does nothing to me)
Stare at a wall for 1 hour. One full hour.

Don't become sleep deprived. It's a great way to make you dumber.
Fasting is a very good thing for you actually, but yes, slowly go into it. Fasting will make your life last longer, as well as keep you a little bit healthier. Drink water, and broth, etc. Fasting for more than 2 or 3 days is bad however.

Try listening to static sound, and meditation.

Try drawing.

not watching TV or talking with anybody is to avoid any entertainment and to avoid getting in touch with the outer world
that's why I think you shall turn all clocks off and close all windows
speeds up "the-getting-crazy-process"

 

[sadhak]

I guarantee you a full experience of madness.

Don't fast abruptly. just DON'T. Prepare your body with eating less, then only eating soup.

And DRINK.

Sleep deprivation is a very... disputed topic, even in this community. I think this needs a lot of preparation, at least.

yeah I know that starting to fast abruptly for more then one day is bad for you
but then again - three days don't sound that much if you keep in mind that some people fast for a number of weeks

I thought that abstaining from water will make it easier to reach an extreme

I don't think that sleep deprivation is THAT bad if you just fulfill the missing hours of sleep later after stopping/finishing the "sleep-fast"
and when kind of preparation are we talking about?

 

[restin]

I tried fasting only once. I made it abruptly, I drank only grape juice. During the day I actually felt quite good, not even hungry. Then, when the evening came I felt hot, I was beginning to have a fever...

At night I woke up and felt reaally bad. I could barely think, I had a fever, and felt very unwell. My thought was that I needed some sugar and some tea. So I stood up....and fell down. I could barely stand still, went slowly to the kitchen and could even make a tea. I was licking sugar while lying on the table - I couldn't stand. When the tea was finished I wanted to go back to bed, as I felt unwell. On my way back to the bad I passed out (!) and had hot tea all over my leg. But I barely felt the pain (later on I found out it was quite a hard burn as it held 1-2 weeks) barely made it to bed...

So, I am not joking when I say prepare well. Don't underestimate that shit. You will feel very weak.

About the sleep deprivation. You can get "trained" by looking how you react to one day not sleeping, then later on two etc. Abstraining from both, eat and sleep sounds very bad to me.

 

[st.bot.32]

I did almost 3 days once during a final exam period and I didn't find it remotely psychedelic, just weird and kind of funny and I slept for almost 16 hours after. Threshold wakeness is more interesting than sleep deprivation IME. Get good at it and it's almost like tripping for free, anytime, anywhere... I can do it on my lunch hour There are lots of ways of reaching it too, music, meditation, etc. Plus it isn't fatiguing. Win/win!

A lot of other things on that list though, spending a few days avoiding all media and just meditating sound pretty good to me.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

do you think that doing all that for 3 days would enough to get hallucinations?

Why do you want to get hallucinations?

None of the things you mentioned will get you anywhere. But if you're searching for alternatives to psychedelics (because they're not available to you), look into holotropic breathwork. A couple of hours of deep, circular breathing (of course with eyeshades on and suitable music in the background) can get you into a very useful nonordinary state of mind. Be prepared for the surfacing of unconscious but emotionally charged material, like traumatic memories from childhood etc.

If you simply want an altered state of mind, or hallucinations, sniff glue.

 

[IJesusChrist]

If you simply want an altered state of mind, or hallucinations, sniff glue.

or get a can of spray paint.

 

[Forkbender]

I think the whole list will definitely have some effect due to intense stress to your Central Nervous System. Sense deprivation for three days should probably be enough. Or you could try a psychedelic, although I have heard from an experienced psychonaut that the sense deprivation works better.