wicked drug

[ProStoner]

hey
I heard about this drug that makes u relive your whole life
for example i`m almost 20 and the effect last about half an hour but time is relative with this drug and I heard I will completely relive everything i`ve seen and done but as a bystander.. I am supposed to see me do all these things and for my feeling it really lasts 20 years
does anyone know this drug ?? cause I don't know the name or anything and if this is even true
its costs around 500 euro the guy said and is very hard to get
i`m not going to try it cause its just insane if thats what the stuff really does
I also dont know if this is natural or synthetic but I find it hard to believe this would be something nature created hehe

 

[skrudge]

sounds fucking crazy man!
I'd do it if I only had a few days to live...or if I was about to write an autobiography
and re-experiecing every moment is kinda impossible I think? Anyway, seems to be a good thing to test our memory with But I kinda doubt if such a thing exists

 

[tryptonaut]

From what I read it could be a huge dose of smoked N,N-DMT (or a huge dose of oral ayahuasca, which is the same active substance). It seems people tend to experience their own death and before that re-live their whole life.

It could also be a huge dose of the fly agaric mushroom (people write about going back and forth in time and also "dying") but the description would fit better for DMT, which is a crystalline substance, pretty hard to get on the black market and pretty expensive (because very rare).

 

[Viaticus]

First of all: I really doubt that there is any substance or combination out there on the black market that really does exactly that. But if we're guessing what substance could be the one that launched this story, I'd probably put my money on Ibogaine. It's said to give you memory flashes from your past and provide new insight to them. And the trip can last for a pretty long time also. So it's sounds like an apt candidate for something that could set off a story like this.

 

[tryptonaut]

viaticus you're right - could also be ibogaine (which I only heard of a few weeks ago)

And yes, it's obviously a very bold statement to say about a psychedelic drug "it will let you see x and y, and then z". Entheogens tend to give you very different experiences depending on dose, set and setting plus they work different for different people. For example read some erowid experience reports on smoked dmt - they go from "hell on earth" to "I met god and it was most wonderful" (just as an example).

 

[Rutger]

Ì think he i talking about smokalble DMT , it takes a half hour and its difficult to obtain (although 500 euro is crazy !) Ibogaine does sound like the effects , but with a good dose this can last for 24-48 hours, guess this is also difficult to obtain on the black market though , not really a recreational drugs.

 

[ProStoner]

I think its Smokeable DMT then cause it does last for around n about 30 minutes
and not 24-48 hours
but its just so weird that it opens up your memory and also things u have loooong forgotten u would say this could be used in very small dosage for medical use or something
to make people with amnesia or forgetfullness remember again by reexperiencing the things
well thanks a lot for the brainstorming
i`ll just keep it to trying Salvia soon i`m still doubting if I should take x5 or x10
cause I really want a trip that makes like fly out of my window and see things or places I've never even been to

 

[Ramona]

It's not ibogaine - the guy says the effects last for half an hour - with ibogaine it's 12-24 hours

 

[Viaticus]

It's true that the length of experience doesn't point to Ibogaine, but as said, there isn't likely anything that makes you relive your life in thirty minutes. Ibogaine seems to have a tendency of waking up memories from your past and letting you relive them, so it sounds like something that could spawn a story of a "wicked drug" like this. True, DMT is another option, the "reliving past"-part just sounds more like ibogaine.

It would be nice to find out where this story has originated from. It's always fascinating to trace up "broken telephones" like this.

 

[skrudge]

In mindrush though, time has no point at all... it doesnt even exist, not is it linear. so it might be possible to relive everything in 30 mins, but if it was so, then it would go to fast to bring emotions up with the events, and if it did it'd be a freaking chaos, and end up in some dramatic way

 

[ProStoner]

could it be like a mixture of ibogaine and DMT ?
god knows what men are possible of creating these days

 

[rebootzero]

It sounds like it's strictly DMT... or bullshit, you pick x_x. I doubt it's DMT though... your brain is thinking of alot more than just life... but I suppose it depends on the psychonaut/neoshaman in question.

 

[Rutger]

You don't hear a lot about ibogaine used as an "recreational" drug (what ever that means). Did hear people using it to fight there addiction for like heroine or cocaine. It says to be a very long experience which supposely takes you though you whole life and gives you more understanding in certain aspects of life. Some research has been done on it and they think it even "resets" certain areas of the brain including the parts that induce the craving of harddrugs while being an addict. Some users claimed to stopped using and did not have any craving for the harddrugs after a 2-3 days session.

I know that they are doing some therapy sessions in Holland and also in Belgium , there like 750-1000 euro for a weekend and they supply the ibogaine (don't know how they do that legally) and they provide for all you needs and take care of you so that is probably why its so expensive.

 

[rebootzero]

You don't hear a lot about ibogaine used as an "recreational" drug (what ever that means). Did hear people using it to fight there addiction for like heroine or cocaine. It says to be a very long experience which supposely takes you though you whole life and gives you more understanding in certain aspects of life. Some research has been done on it and they think it even "resets" certain areas of the brain including the parts that induce the craving of harddrugs while being an addict. Some users claimed to stopped using and did not have any craving for the harddrugs after a 2-3 days session.

I know that they are doing some therapy sessions in Holland and also in Belgium , there like 750-1000 euro for a weekend and they supply the ibogaine (don't know how they do that legally) and they provide for all you needs and take care of you so that is probably why its so expensive.

Naltrexone and LAAM are the two drugs that should be used for opiate addiction. It stops the sezures and most body complications coming down. But Iboga is strictly a neoshamanoid (yeah, I just made that up) drug. A delierant, generally depicting the regrets in someone's life. I suppose that with that in mind, it could possibly make a heroin addict feel guilty about his/her problem...and reduce the use, but physical addiction should be taken a step further with synthetic opoids. -IMO-

 

[tryptonaut]

I suppose that with that in mind, it could possibly make a heroin addict feel guilty about his/her problem...and reduce the use, but physical addiction should be taken a step further with synthetic opoids.

I don't know any of this personally (never had an opiate addiction and never tried ibogaine) but from what I read, people claim that a strong ibogaine experience can really "reset" your opiate tolerance to zero, as well as the physical addiction. Of course you can always become addicted again (just like you became addicted the first time)

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

My mentor wichdoctor and his cult know this stuff.This staf is real.I was traying and bagging mentor to show me and instruct me in use of some,but only the higher mages can use it.You need to be in suprime level of selfconsequensens,be alowed by higher powers and spirits to visit astral and ethereal plane without any psychodelics and have powerfull BOOK OF SHADOWS(book writen by mage-containing spells,recepies,ect.Every europian witch have it,indians have paintings and high sense for signals-theirs book of shadows).Only thing that he tell me is that it is little,weary little purple shroom.,its not psilocibe or Soma(Fly Argic) but something else.And other thing is that you can even go to future and see yours mistakes,all imfo, and all the time you are in astral plane and watching yourself.Mentor(who even has not already try it) told me that HITLER use it to understand how to control mases of peoples.