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I just bought Ebook about psychedelics Drugs and i read this:

Can you die from LSD poisoning? Yes, but it has yet to be documented in a human.

I noticed too:

You could die of heart failure caused by intense fear. I believe fear can kill you.
A very intense LSD rush caused by multiple tabs can speed the heart up to 200 beats a minute and theoretically could be dangerous to a weak heart.
I once thought I was going to die on LSD as my heart was beating too fast.I was in an ambulance rigged up to a heart monitor reading 190 beats a minute. The more I worried about my heart rate the higher it got and I had extreme palpitations.
I'm sure you could die in rare instances from this overload on the heart.
LSD can also cause fatal dehydration theoretically, thought it is probably not the LSD itself but what it is laced with that can dry one out too much.

However, there have been a number of people who have died as a result of Cardiac Arrest due to a bad trip. They just have such a scary trip that they almost literally talk themselves in to a Heart Attack.

Also, I've read that LSD increases body temperature and blood pressure. So, if the person taking it unknowingly has an underlying cardiac or heart problem, this may kick them into cardiac arrest or some blood pressure-related problem.

Other infos i found:

he read, testified that LSD could increase the heart rate, and that such tachycardia caused a heart attack.


Heart Failure. LSD has led to fatal convulsions. "His heart couldn't take it," as a doctor diagnosed an LSD death. It was: heart failure. Cause: LSD.

I thought LSD was clean :s What to believe? Psychonaut's member or Ebook? Cause i'm little afraid about this :s

Thank you so much and sorry for my english i'm Belgian
 
fctpntm a dit:
Can you die from LSD poisoning? Yes, but it has yet to be documented in a human.



You could die of heart failure caused by intense fear. I believe fear can kill you.

I once thought I was going to die on LSD

I'm sure you could die in rare instances from this overload on the heart.

LSD can also cause fatal dehydrationtheoretically,

However, there have been a number of people who have died as a result of Cardiac Arrest due to a bad trip.

LSD has led to fatal convulsions. "His heart couldn't take it," as a doctor diagnosed an LSD death. It was: heart failure. Cause: LSD.

Yet to be documented in a human, and yet there are all these things saying that people have died from LSD. I wouldn't worry to be honest. Think how many LSD trips there have been since it was made. And think how many times you've heard people have died from LSD. I've never heard any LSD related deaths before.
 
Why didn't you mention the title and author of the book?
And which portions of your post are citations?

No one ever got a heart attack from LSD. And one should not forget that convulsions and tremors occurring in holotropic states can be extremely healing.

Read Stan Grof's "LSD Psychotherapy" cover to cover. Buy it, you won't regret.
 
There gonna be a french/english contest on the quality of the answer.
For the moment we win : )
 
Quant a dit:
There gonna be a french/english contest on the quality of the answer.
For the moment we win : )
Yes, nice quotations and answers there. Bravo!
 
fctpntm a dit:
I just bought Ebook about psychedelics Drugs and i read this:

Where? What title? Who wrote it?

There are some things not entirely correct.
 
its not the LSD itself causing these heart attacks its mind power
i can speed my heart up on command tho it can take a minute to get going
so on acid if you are thinking "im going to have a heart attack, omg i cant take this" and panicing and shit then sure, i mean if you think you're dying then you're heart is gona beat pretty damn hard

also..
you can overdose on anything, oxygen ffs

aparently the ld 50 of lsd is ridiculously high, but dont take my word on that its just second hand knowledge i havnt done the research
 
I copypasted the first post into google and found that the source was actually another site:

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/11424

These people are people just like you and me and I would trust the people with the most experience = us.

Puzzling to me is why you would pay for an e-book that takes its sources from answerbag.com ... :?
 
I'm looking for a simple claim of some one dying of heart failure on LSD, I have yet to find It but searching. I think it should be understood that they are risk to any drug, including hallucinogenics. The mind is fragile and your fucking with it allot not your brain but your mind there is a difference. In the time of writing this yet to find a reported one in a human but many a claim and some that happen to rabbits. In 1999 there were 5 reported deaths with LSD in the report but not as the cause of the death just that the person was on it an it was significant enough to mention.

So seriously don't say LSD is 100% safe, don't say you can od. Its just a drug with risk, like any drug, food or vitamin if used improperly.

Off subject: I had a friend who was taking care of a old man, the old mans last wish was that he would die while tripping with him. So my friend gave him the does near his last days and the took the man off his life support, the man died happily, he came to accepting death and my friend had a good trip morning his death I believe. He just told me they dosed waithed till it kicked in then the old man took allot of oxy and he took him of life support. He said it was beautiful so I am just assuming it went well.
 
Forkbender a dit:
Puzzling to me is why you would pay for an e-book that takes its sources from answerbag.com ... :?
:lol:
 
you can over dose on lsd but it is way more than you need to trip on it. so unless you are taking like 100 hits of decent acid you dont have anything to worry about.
 
Can you die from LSD poisoning? Yes, but it has yet to be documented in a human.
Heart Failure. LSD has led to fatal convulsions. "His heart couldn't take it," as a doctor diagnosed an LSD death. It was: heart failure. Cause: LSD.
Fatal contradiction? WTF?
 
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