victims become commiters

[BrainEater]

i think it's like a psychological effect. i wouldn't necessarily say that it's exactly like addiction, but maybe a bit similar.
in the way that it works with replacement. if you lose something, you may take something else as replacement.
of course this is a delusion of the ego-mind, because in reality i don't think it really works like that.
the idea here is that energy can never be destroyed, only transformed. and some people think it's done when they
just buried it deep enough inside of themselves that they can't see it anymore. :shock:

so maybe the word replacement is not the best for what i try to say. maybe compensation fits it better...
but it's still only a speculation, whether it's always like that. i would say maybe sometimes it is and maybe
sometimes not. but it would make some sense that the victimness could be tried to be compensated by
doing the opposite/going in the opposite direction or so.... :?
maybe the question is whether it's also happening the other way round... commiters become victims lol...
i am sure that it can happen.


replacement/compensation is a concept that can and is being abused a lot, probably a lot related to ego-mind.

what you think???

hmmm maybe i should do another thread about the psychology of power or the power of psychology lol. but i may need to reflect a little bit more about that before............. if you ask me, it's like fish trying to eat each other. hahahaha cheers!!! :lol: :lol:

ah btw... FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT!!!!!! 8) :twisted:




peace

 

[Sticki]

To play the victim is a state of being, Alot of people have adopted this frame of mind including myself at times.

The buried energy you talk about in my opinion is the doubt and apathy one experiences when they themselves can no longer believe in anything usually caused by the reactions and blindness of others, persecution and mockery by others, the state of the world, a feeling of loss and finally loss of belief in oneself.

However, We live in a world of equal right and oppertunity no matter what person, government or entity may dislike this fact. We must learn the system and progress in the right channels with the right intention to make positive change or else we just fall into stereotypes created for easy living people that do not wish to think for themselves and are passed off as "Crazy", "Drug Addicts" or something else.

Replacement / Compensation makes me think of the old testament saying, "An eye for an eye!"
This being, A wrong against one demands to be payed back in equal value.
This has actually sparked an interesting thought in my head,
On the basis of "an eye for an eye" there is no victim becuase the one who wronged is now equal.
On the basis of forgiveness and the new testament saying, "Turn the other cheek" this act alone leads to a feeling of powerlessness in some situations. For example when the attack (Physical or Mental) has been intentional and you are weak. Another thought, Darwin and the process of evoution - Survival of the fittest.

So here is the question, Is it not pretty clear that forgiveness is not evolutionary and further more that controlled religion and law is really only there to make people feel like victims, weak, scared and powerless?

Funny, Most victims become religious huh? :lol:

I would also like to make it perfectly clear that forgiveness and kindness demonstrated through understanding, tolarance and forbearance is something I personally practice and mean this more so for the person or people who actively and conciously engage in acts of crime against humanity, I.E. Dictators, Politicians, Governments, Officials, Religions etc

Live and let live 8)

 

[Sticki]

I think I may have been on a different frequency earlier when I read your post, Now I read it differently...

I think what you are saying is something like "The abused becomes the abuser".

Monkey see, Monkey do...

If this is so, This theory has been around for a long time and it was widely excepted for instance that children that were abused growing up would lead a life of abusing because of the lack of right input.

Fear breeds fear, The only thing one can do in this sense is educate and hope to break the cycle.

P.S. Also the reason people feel empty is because they are hungry for something they have forgotten in their attempt to change how much nature controls life

 

[BrainEater]

yeah man totally.... it's like people just don't know it any better or they would do it better, right?? that's at least what i would think. well but sometimes the stupidity is also so extreme that i can't possibly seem to be able to believe it lol...
maybe a reason for why it goes like that with a lot of people is that they seem to encounter points, where they can't
even seem to be able to imagine alternatives. which is of course very much delusional thinking in most cases at least.
there are always alternatives. the question is whether we can see them or not.



peace