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V.S. Ramachandran on Synesthesia

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Interesting stuff.
I need acid to activate this :P
 
I never experienced it. Maybe I need to take even more acid.
 
LOL, he just mentioned it :P

But I experienced sound/sight synesthesia
in the middle of a dancefloor at a party :mrgreen:
 
I get a lot of cross sensory stuff when I take enough acid, tasting sound, or seeing physical sensations like touch, or hearing paintings.. that was actually one of the biggest appeals of it for me from the start, it's an amazing way to change your creative processes, I think. Not just acid.. one of the first times I seriously smoked pot (terrence mckenna style) I was playing notes on a little keyboard and the keyboard kept changing color with the tones.

I've never really gotten this off of mushies for some strange reason, probably I just haven't done enough mushrooms. :D
 
Like you st.bot.32, synesthesia was one the reasons which led me to use psychedelics.

I've experienced a visual/auditive synesthesia with mushrooms, definitely a great sensation. Tasting sounds also must be fantastic !

Interesting to know that synesthesia is eight times more present among creative types of people (artists...) than "normal" people.

Thanks for the link Fork.
 
Two weeks ago on my 500 ug trip I experienced it with open eyes. It were transparant window patterns seen on the floor, shifting in a controlled motion through the music I was listening to. I could feel sound waves on my skin as it was wind. Remarkable also how sometimes half of the sound of the music I was listening to was going ahead normally, while some other beats or waves remained much longer tangible in my consciousness than the actual presence of those sounds in reality. Visuals were minorly present at this point. Only significant crystal fractals with no colours.

Shrooms (3 to 6 grams) bend the existing environment itself way more powerful with open eyes, and deform size or shape, or make everything in the environment waving completely. But there's less synesthesia and there is much less addition pulled over the environment itself. But powerful CEV's which are very elaborated. Sound comes in as it comes from outer space. Shrooms affect the brains much more severe than LSD, while LSD affects the sensory and decreases it's filters.

Subjectively, synesthesia does not belong to psilo as much as acid. But shrooms produce a greater ego death and identity loss than LSD.
 
Wow, that's food for thought.

I think I know this man from somewhere, possibly the (mostly German) 'Medien Schamanismus' DVD. I remember him talking about the dance of lord Shiva somewhere, as a metaphor for the psychedelic experience. Or was it 'Liquid Crystal Vision'? Anyway, I'm quite sure he's included in some type of entheogen video.

If LSD generates a type of synesthesia because it makes two closely related centers in the brain interact, what other types of 'invisible' synesthesia actually occur during a psychedelic experience?

Interesting what he suggested about the gene, that it might be for the benefit of the entire species if some individuals are artistic and metaphorical while others are more 'straight'.
 
Getafix a dit:
I think I know this man from somewhere, possibly the (mostly German) 'Medien Schamanismus' DVD. I remember him talking about the dance of lord Shiva somewhere, as a metaphor for the psychedelic experience. Or was it 'Liquid Crystal Vision'? Anyway, I'm quite sure he's included in some type of entheogen video.
I now remember, it was indeed from Liquid Crystal Vision, with footage from the Mind States IV conference.

Here's a recording from that lecture by V.S. Ramachandran: Podcast 118 - “What Neurology Can Tell Us About Human Nature, Synesthesia and Art
 
I agree that Synesthesia is interesting but why do you find it THAT interesting, if I may ask? LSD just happens to activate certain regions in the brain...
 
restin a dit:
I agree that Synesthesia is interesting but why do you find it THAT interesting, if I may ask? LSD just happens to activate certain regions in the brain...

Because our sensory receptions is one of the ways we most experience pleasurable and beautiful things. so synsthesia is enhancing that which allows us to appreciate and enjoy our experiences\trips\living ect. Which makes you feel good, and what is more interesting that that which makes us feel good and alive, right?


I have this very mildly naturally sometimes [synesthesia], it especially becomes apparent to others through my writing...poetry, really.

thanks for the link Fork :)
 
Hmm but synesthesia has nothing to do with special appreciation of beautiful things - it just connects two different aspects - numbers + colors, colors + smells etc. which of course is nice but nothing more, as I see it.
 
haha restin you need more acid

did you watch the vid? this ramachandran guy always talks about very interesting stuff. i remember another talk by him at ted.com about him curing people suffering from phantom limbs with mirrors.
 
haha restin you need more acid

:D

once you've experienced it you'll know why. saying synesthesia is "just" two senses being connected is like saying that all being able to see and experience color is, is "just" your brain interpreting wavelengths of light. the experience is pretty much impossible to describe, it has to be experienced. It gives you a completely new and different perspective on your senses, shows you things that you might never have never realized before, basically it opens up some very interesting doors for consciousness exploration

Nina_is_alive a dit:
I have this very mildly naturally sometimes [synesthesia], it especially becomes apparent to others through my writing...poetry, really.

I do too, and I didn't even realize what it was or understand how it had shaped my perception of music.. until I took a good dose of acid :)

A lot of art and music references synesthesia.. there is a fair amount of music meant to be experienced between the senses (a lot of artists do psychedelics of course ;) ) Especially psychedelic and experimental music that explores static+changing timbres and textures, and how music can affect your perception of time, etc.
 
probably you two are right...
did you watch the vid? this ramachandran guy always talks about very interesting stuff. i remember another talk by him at ted.com about him curing people suffering from phantom limbs with mirrors.
Of course I watched it :wink: I probably worded it unclear, it is interesting, for sure.
 
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