trichocereus sp., San Pedro and peyote

[mogdonotkd]

Hello, I'm new in this domain, but my interest on it goes up more n more. I bought a few cacti to grow. Looked on the internet but couldn't identify all of them. Actually...I'm pretty sure I have a peyote and a San pedro, about the rest I cannot tell. My peyote is 12 years old, at least that's what the vendor told me. The San Pedro is v. cristata, I just received it from C.Pl. . I'm curious about the other species, if they have any important cooking value, like San P. and Lophophora. About Peyote, I'm curious how to determine it to produce small buttons. I have a lot of questions, but i'll stop here and show u the pictures.
Thnx[]

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I have not seen yours Peyote picture. Ask what you would like to know and I will help you. :!: 8)

Bout Pedro's! They doesn't look to Pedro Cacti at All! Big PICT!
Try to photo them again but use smaller resolution but with more pixels per picture. How old are "Pedro's" from first pict? Are they grown from seed or you got them like that? Three from one root or everyone by itself? Meaning three cacti---three roots? :?:

Third picture show nothing! Place smaller but better ones!
PEACE 8)

 

[mogdonotkd]

Hi, sorry about the pictures, I never knew they are the size of Gargantua.
Two of them I know they are peyotl, one, the little one is caespaetosa. The columnar cacti, well this is the way I bought them from supermarket. I saw the small spines, the colour and the shape...and guesed they are some kind of pedro.
I wonder also about mammillaria...

 

[mogdonotkd]

This one, the seller told me, is caespaetosa. He said it is 6 years old...I dunno about that, but it has small peyotes around, maybe is true. If the cristata is San Pedro, what is the dose? I found no info about San Pedro cristata on the internet, are there any important differences between the usual San Pedro?
One more thing!
I started to grow cacti from seeds 2 weeks and a half ago. As far, only one peyote. I used artificial lights as I've seen on a movie on internet. I put Williamsii, diffussa, Pachanoi and Peruvian torch. Only one small button the size of a niddle showed up. I used 3 artifficial lights 1 blue light 40 w and 2 lights 11 w sopposed to reproduce daylight. Put them in a box I tapped with alluminium to reflect light.The distance from lights is about 20 cm. The result is minimum. The movie was teaching that in 5 to 7 days the plants shall rise. Did not happened that way
So I waited. Maybe I used too much light? Do they suffer light stress?

 

[scamie]

That are peyote
a trichocereus cristate if iam not wrong
But the other'colum cacti are not san pedro aka trichocereus it are myrtillocactus geometrizan!!
Excellent to put peyote buttons on to speed up growing

 

[mogdonotkd]

Thank U for identifieing it,
Their luck I didn't eat them, I was so sure they' re Pedro's. Well, I wonder about that crafting mettod, I didn't do a craft since now. I want to speed up my peyote's growth but I'm afraid not to spoil it.The plant myrtillocactus geometrizan is about 10 cm height. Is it enough to craft the peyote on it? And how should I do that? When is the proper time? Wich mettod is the best? I looked on youtoube at some vids and saw that one with super glue, is it safe?
Thank You,
Pif

 

[mogdonotkd]

P.S. To the moderator:
I want to delete the big pictures from my first message. I can tell they are pretty annoying, I'm sorry about that. The reading is difficult so please tell me how to do that, if I can, or please delete the pictures if this command is not available to newbees.
Thank U,
Pif

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

You can by yourself remove those big pictures. Just open again post with EDIT and remove attachments.

Scamie was right. Those are myrtillocactus geometrizan cacti! The best for grafting! They grow slow to the one point, but then explode! I have grown from just one myrtillocactus 6 ones! And every year first one gives me two more! But you need to see how cuttings looks! Full of sharp and hard spines, nothing like first one! And you would not poisoned yourself if you have eaten them. Only diarrhea would emurge!

If you need help with grafting I would gladly guide you up. You just make another post with name like Grafting or something like that.

Cristate can be anything! But some looks shows Pachanoi! And faith is important here! I sad before something! Cut upper-right part of cacti (upper-right on picture :!: ) And leave it on alu-foil 2-3 weeks. After 2-3 weeks place it in the new small pot. Small because you do not need big roots for now and also this would be time waste! After 6-9 months you can replant it in the bigger pot. Cacti will be bigger and stronger so new roots will come out really fast instead of starting wait for big roots and then growth! This will save you one year! Trust me. And why to do that? Cristate is 1 from 10000th form of cacti! Also I never eat whole cacti! TOP IS RESERVED FOR NEW ONE!
Also left something like 1-2cm of cacti above soil. New one will start to sprout!
Bout eating? Do not worry. You can't poisoned yourself because this kind of cacti aren't toxic in bad description of word toxic.

Peyote seeds germinate from 5 to 100 days! :!: There is so much shit on NET! Do not listen!

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION JUST ASK
PEACE 8)

 

[mogdonotkd]

Hi, thank U for answering, they are very useful information. I put a picture and draw a line to see if that is what U meant when U said to cut the upper right part of the cactus. Maybe the cutting is too small?
Thank U,
Pif

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

No it's just fine. By the eye I see 3-4cm in height and little more wide. This is enough. Cut it and place on paper so wound can dry and start to sprout tiny roots. You can wait 6-7 weeks but also you can after 2 weeks place it in dry soil. One month after spray some water on top of soil. Then spray again after 2 weeks. Past that time water it normally.

 

[mogdonotkd]

hello,
I cut it! about 4 cm height. I put it in a small paperbag is it ok?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

No, put it on the paper! Cacti needs light to stimulate roots growth! In bag this chance is less! And of course do not place it on frying sun light! In indirect sun light. Fine shade but also not entirely shade! After that new cacti will come out! Meaning from all of this steps. And after that you can make new one and new one. Indefinably!

 

[mogdonotkd]

Well, I ve seen some pictures wih a glass of water and the plant standing above...should I try this one?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Listen! I have told you couple of times what to do! And you again ask questions what to do, is maybe better this, or that, or should I place cacti near or on the top of glass!?!?!


I have send you tips and tips!, what to do and how to do it!
Cutting piece of cacti place on paper, thick paper-carton! NO FREAKING BAG!!! Also cut-cacti piece needs to be in shade (sun is going to fry next days and more) but of course cacti cut needs some light like small but full "morning light radiation period"! And wait minimum 16 days before you plant it into soil. The best is to wait 30-40 days but what the hell. After planting cacti in to the pot, wait 2-3 weeks with watering plans!!! You for sure doesn't want molds and fungi disease! 15-20 day after replanting spray some water. Three or four spoons! Then wait 10 days more and give more water again. Double the watering dose from last time. 10-15 days after that you can water it normally. AND THIS IS IT BOUT CUTTING PROPAGATION OF PEDRO CACTI!!!!

No offense but word after my answer, and again word after my answer, and again I think this, I have sow this, I have Google little on Net, so what you think?, isn't productive! I will help you but please, PLEASE
I know cacti and how to grow them, use them properly, respect them in meaner of way which is bigger then mostly of 98% of "Cacti" believers here in this Psychonaut forum!

I know that you are young in cacti grow thing and you doesn't know much, but try to listen something especially if this person answer each one question! Like administrator for cacti issue!

I believe that you have not take this personal! But if you want to listen my advices, LISTEN, otherwise listen Internet and that "HELPS&GUIDES"
PEACE
BLESS
LIGHT

 

[mogdonotkd]

Thank You for answers, I put the cutting on paper.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

OK man! Sorry for my harsh words! I have plan to kill myself next Friday! So this only get on my nerves! Sorry you aren't the guy who is guilt in that way! Simple you do not know what to do! I have told you last time (angry post) what to do and you will have new cristate, much more value in Psychonaut eyes! You are lucky!

But from me you will hardly get any more tips cause I will be dead! If you can make something trough this forum and alert people that I am suicidal and build interception of my death I would be life appreciated! In my world where I truly live and exist this is reality! I have feeling that my existence doesn't effect anyone! Help me with new post for me! Please cause I have decided to die! I am crying even now! But what the hell! If you Psychonauts doesn't care who will??? cause what I am doing is unexceptionable in my society and way of life! Sorry young psychonaut, I wounding you with to hard burden. SORRY. SEE YOU IN NEXT LIFE! :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

 

[Icelus]

Are you serious? Why do you want to do that?