BetterLivingGuy
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- 20/7/12
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Hey kids. I don’t know if any of you remember me. I used to frequent totes, wetdreams, and the-hive during the latter half of ’04 under the username BillyBoy413… until I got busted. I was charged with manufacturing a few grams of cis 4-methylaminorex (4-MAR) but was not charged for any of the trans 4-MAR I had in my lab. This could be like MDMA all over again. I seem to recall hearing about how a lot of people got rich selling MDMA before the DEA could get around to scheduling it.
I became interested in cooking meth in the summer of ’04 and frequented sites like this. Then in 9/04, I received a PM from some guy in CA advising me he had almost 100 pounds of phenylpropanolamine-HCl (PPA) and had reason to believe it could be converted into cis(+/-) 4-methylaminorex. He said he had been trying for years to find someone who could do the conversion and suffered one failure after the next and offered to send some precursors to me if I was interested in attempting it. I was. I got my hands on the original patent and made just a few grams as the synthesis emits cyanide gas. I was very impressed with the results. I took only 20 mg and was up for 12 hours. I thought it was a wonderful drug. Well I noted in the Code of Federal Regulations, specifically 21 CFR 1308.11(f)(6), that only the cis isomers of 4-MAR are regulated, and the way the regulation is written, the trans isomers are excepted. I assumed that the trans isomers weren’t regulated because they hadn’t been invented yet. The cis isomers were regulated beginning 1987 but I couldn’t find any mention of trans 4-MAR in the literature until 1994 when some folks at the State University of New York at Stony Brook published a paper on it. They synthesized all 4 isomers of 4-MAR and tested each isomer’s affect on the locomotor activity in rats, but they didn’t publish their syntheses nor did they ever attempt to patent them. So I got to work.
After a few months I discovered a very elegant synthesis for the trans isomers and they are probably 10 times more potent than the cis! I will post my synthesis under another thread. Anyway, I did 20 mg of the trans isomers the first time I took it and was up for 3 straight days with no fatigue or jitters! I had to get some klonopin from a friend to get some sleep after 3 days. It was fanfuckintastic! I didn’t get a huge burst of energy; it was more like tripping where your mind is working overtime and your body just follows along. I felt like my brain was working at peak efficiency and therefore felt very self-empowered, hence the street name Euphoria. Unfortunately my party ended in 12/04. Someone snitched on me and I received 40 months in prison.
As an important aside, I read all these comments on being careful not to blow up your lab, to be very discreet in your posts on these sites, and to be careful where you get your chemicals and equipment from. I am totally in agreement here but I want to say that I met probably a dozen guys in prison who were doing time for manufacturing. And they all got busted the same way I did; someone snitched on them. Having been arrested and done time, if there is anything from my experience that I would like to share it is this: We have become a nation of snitches. Perhaps in the ‘60s the general mindset may have been that it is better to rot than rat, but not anymore. If I were allowed to only give you all one piece of advice it would be this: do not involve anyone in your business unless absolutely necessary. The guy who snitched on me had been my best friend for a year. He was busted for possession and was only looking at 6 months county jail time. And for that he flipped on me. I’m not saying you should be less careful about posting on these sites and purchasing chemicals and equipment. I am saying you should be MORE careful about letting people know what you’re up to because that is most likely how you will get busted. Imho.
Anyway, back to my story. The prosecutor tried to charge me with all the trans I made but in the end I was ONLY charged with a few grams of the cis isomers I made the first time. I worked for a regulatory agency for 20 years (enforcing EPA regs) and successfully argued that according to the letter of the law, the trans isomers were excepted. The prosecutor then tried to argue that the trans isomers were regulated because they meet the definition of Analogue (Designer Drug) in the Analogue Act. But I argued that the language in the Analogue Act isn’t directly enforceable. I pointed out that an Act of Congress is the vehicle by which they instruct and authorize an executive agency to draft regulations that hopefully achieve the intent of the Act. Those proposed regulations then have to be adopted by Congress at which point they become enforceable. And only the language in the regulations that are promulgated in accordance with the Act is enforceable; not the language in the Act itself. The Analogue Act is about what the DEA is supposed to do, the regulations are about what the general public is supposed to do. And the judge agreed. A precedent was set! Needless to say the prosecutor was pissed!
When I was released from prison I was curious to see if the DEA had taken any steps to regulate trans. Instead I was shocked and surprised to find the following:
DEA Resources, Microgram Journal, Volume 3, July-December 2005
I believe, without a doubt, this article to be all about damage control and offers some interesting insight into how the DEA operates. The DEA generated so much publicity about my case only to have the judge rule that the trans isomers weren’t regulated under the current regulations and could not be regulated under the Analogue Act. That means the DEA can only regulate them under the older Controlled Substances Act (CSA). The way I read that Act, the DEA much first submit a report to Congress explaining why they want to regulate a new drug. An 8 Factor Analysis must be submitted and one of those factors is the extent of actual abuse in the real world. So I am guessing that the CSA may not allow the DEA to be proactive, i.e., that they can’t even begin to try and regulate a new drug unless there’s actual evidence of abuse. Idk.
Anyway, the only person from the DEA’s office that was at my sentencing hearing was Walter Rodriguez, one of the co-authors of the article and he could barely speak English. I don’t know who the other author is. Like I said, I am totally convinced this article was written because either the DEA can’t start regulating trans or they don’t want to spend the time, energy, and money when there’s no existing problem with abuse. More important, I believe there is a window of opportunity to sell this drug legally for a while.
It’s interesting to note that the article doesn’t state that I made any of the cis isomers. It states that I was charged with manufacturing “a controlled substance”, which they don’t specify, misleading readers to believe that I was charged with making trans. It appears Wikipedia didn’t check their facts about this either.
The authors go on to say that the drug is regulated under the Analogue Act and use as the basis of their argument language directly from the Analogue Act that I had already successfully argued is not directly enforceable. This is total bullshit! Possessing PPA is a felony but once you convert it to trans 4-MAR, you can currently sell it on the sidewalk like a lemonade stand and there isn’t anything they can do to you. The $60,000 question is for how long.
Like I said, I seem to recall hearing about how a lot of people got rich selling MDMA before the DEA could get around to scheduling it. I would be very curious to know if anyone knows why it took the DEA so long to regulate MDMA. Thanks.
I became interested in cooking meth in the summer of ’04 and frequented sites like this. Then in 9/04, I received a PM from some guy in CA advising me he had almost 100 pounds of phenylpropanolamine-HCl (PPA) and had reason to believe it could be converted into cis(+/-) 4-methylaminorex. He said he had been trying for years to find someone who could do the conversion and suffered one failure after the next and offered to send some precursors to me if I was interested in attempting it. I was. I got my hands on the original patent and made just a few grams as the synthesis emits cyanide gas. I was very impressed with the results. I took only 20 mg and was up for 12 hours. I thought it was a wonderful drug. Well I noted in the Code of Federal Regulations, specifically 21 CFR 1308.11(f)(6), that only the cis isomers of 4-MAR are regulated, and the way the regulation is written, the trans isomers are excepted. I assumed that the trans isomers weren’t regulated because they hadn’t been invented yet. The cis isomers were regulated beginning 1987 but I couldn’t find any mention of trans 4-MAR in the literature until 1994 when some folks at the State University of New York at Stony Brook published a paper on it. They synthesized all 4 isomers of 4-MAR and tested each isomer’s affect on the locomotor activity in rats, but they didn’t publish their syntheses nor did they ever attempt to patent them. So I got to work.
After a few months I discovered a very elegant synthesis for the trans isomers and they are probably 10 times more potent than the cis! I will post my synthesis under another thread. Anyway, I did 20 mg of the trans isomers the first time I took it and was up for 3 straight days with no fatigue or jitters! I had to get some klonopin from a friend to get some sleep after 3 days. It was fanfuckintastic! I didn’t get a huge burst of energy; it was more like tripping where your mind is working overtime and your body just follows along. I felt like my brain was working at peak efficiency and therefore felt very self-empowered, hence the street name Euphoria. Unfortunately my party ended in 12/04. Someone snitched on me and I received 40 months in prison.
As an important aside, I read all these comments on being careful not to blow up your lab, to be very discreet in your posts on these sites, and to be careful where you get your chemicals and equipment from. I am totally in agreement here but I want to say that I met probably a dozen guys in prison who were doing time for manufacturing. And they all got busted the same way I did; someone snitched on them. Having been arrested and done time, if there is anything from my experience that I would like to share it is this: We have become a nation of snitches. Perhaps in the ‘60s the general mindset may have been that it is better to rot than rat, but not anymore. If I were allowed to only give you all one piece of advice it would be this: do not involve anyone in your business unless absolutely necessary. The guy who snitched on me had been my best friend for a year. He was busted for possession and was only looking at 6 months county jail time. And for that he flipped on me. I’m not saying you should be less careful about posting on these sites and purchasing chemicals and equipment. I am saying you should be MORE careful about letting people know what you’re up to because that is most likely how you will get busted. Imho.
Anyway, back to my story. The prosecutor tried to charge me with all the trans I made but in the end I was ONLY charged with a few grams of the cis isomers I made the first time. I worked for a regulatory agency for 20 years (enforcing EPA regs) and successfully argued that according to the letter of the law, the trans isomers were excepted. The prosecutor then tried to argue that the trans isomers were regulated because they meet the definition of Analogue (Designer Drug) in the Analogue Act. But I argued that the language in the Analogue Act isn’t directly enforceable. I pointed out that an Act of Congress is the vehicle by which they instruct and authorize an executive agency to draft regulations that hopefully achieve the intent of the Act. Those proposed regulations then have to be adopted by Congress at which point they become enforceable. And only the language in the regulations that are promulgated in accordance with the Act is enforceable; not the language in the Act itself. The Analogue Act is about what the DEA is supposed to do, the regulations are about what the general public is supposed to do. And the judge agreed. A precedent was set! Needless to say the prosecutor was pissed!
When I was released from prison I was curious to see if the DEA had taken any steps to regulate trans. Instead I was shocked and surprised to find the following:
DEA Resources, Microgram Journal, Volume 3, July-December 2005
I believe, without a doubt, this article to be all about damage control and offers some interesting insight into how the DEA operates. The DEA generated so much publicity about my case only to have the judge rule that the trans isomers weren’t regulated under the current regulations and could not be regulated under the Analogue Act. That means the DEA can only regulate them under the older Controlled Substances Act (CSA). The way I read that Act, the DEA much first submit a report to Congress explaining why they want to regulate a new drug. An 8 Factor Analysis must be submitted and one of those factors is the extent of actual abuse in the real world. So I am guessing that the CSA may not allow the DEA to be proactive, i.e., that they can’t even begin to try and regulate a new drug unless there’s actual evidence of abuse. Idk.
Anyway, the only person from the DEA’s office that was at my sentencing hearing was Walter Rodriguez, one of the co-authors of the article and he could barely speak English. I don’t know who the other author is. Like I said, I am totally convinced this article was written because either the DEA can’t start regulating trans or they don’t want to spend the time, energy, and money when there’s no existing problem with abuse. More important, I believe there is a window of opportunity to sell this drug legally for a while.
It’s interesting to note that the article doesn’t state that I made any of the cis isomers. It states that I was charged with manufacturing “a controlled substance”, which they don’t specify, misleading readers to believe that I was charged with making trans. It appears Wikipedia didn’t check their facts about this either.
The authors go on to say that the drug is regulated under the Analogue Act and use as the basis of their argument language directly from the Analogue Act that I had already successfully argued is not directly enforceable. This is total bullshit! Possessing PPA is a felony but once you convert it to trans 4-MAR, you can currently sell it on the sidewalk like a lemonade stand and there isn’t anything they can do to you. The $60,000 question is for how long.
Like I said, I seem to recall hearing about how a lot of people got rich selling MDMA before the DEA could get around to scheduling it. I would be very curious to know if anyone knows why it took the DEA so long to regulate MDMA. Thanks.
