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The holy scriptures of the saints and sages of "The holy church of the psychonuts.com mystery Kult Klub Klan syndicate company LTD" . Explaining who we are , why we are here , where we are going , what consciousness is , the secrets of life and death and the origins of religeon .
"I believe everything is conscious, but limited to the actions that they are able to perform."
"I am conscious . I am a whole , the sum of all my parts . Parts that evolved in unison and complementary to eachother . My brain thinks = its conscious . My fingers dont think . Does that mean that my fingertips arent conscious ? Arent a part of that consciousness ? Dont play their role ? A vital role in that i wouldnt be me without them .Isnt the planet the same ? It grew together , in symbiosis with each of its parts . I am a part of the planet and i`m conscious . Doesnt that mean that the planet is conscious of itself ? Isnt the universe the same ? It grew together , in symbiosis with each of its parts . I am a part of the universe and i`m conscious . Doesnt that mean that the universe is conscious of itself ?"
"I like to see a consciousnes as a crosspoint of streams of information. Everything has a mind, but it's hard to recognise another type of mind. When two types of mind are similar, like you and your dog, it's easier to recognise the spirit behind the machinery. The mind, spirit, consciousnes,... spans between the input and output of a system. You can consider living beings as advanced chemical reaction vessels... so why won't even a small chemical reaction have a consciesnes that spans over the reaction system? The sum of all these metabolic reactions makes up our consciesnes, as we make up the consciesnes of our cities."
"We are conscious . Our brain , the seat of our consciousness was built in layers over millions of years . Isnt it so that each layer represents a different stage of evolution . Going from reptile up to us ? = where did consciousness start ? I think each layer was conscious to the limits of its structure . Just as all life has a consciousnes coresponding to itself . Do we have to define consciousness as being aware of our beig as humans are aware of it ? ( If humans had a real consciousness they would be conscious of the results of their actions and we / the planet wouldnt be in the shit ) . Are we mixing up consciousness and intelligence . Who are we to try to impose our standards of whats consciousness / intelligence on other life forms . Put a person outside with no food and no clothes and he would soon die . Do it with every other life form and it would survive = its more intelligent specific to its needs ."
"Maybe its a good idea to stop thinking of god as an old man with a white beard , a sort of cosmic godfather that we can blindly trust and give responsibility to and blame for our problems , and start to think in a more scientific , objective way about god as an unexplained theory / phenomenem . To try to define it , pin it down with a scientificaly aceptable theory . Which i think i have . The universe is undenyably aware of itself through us . It is an organism . I am an organism that is made of inorganic chemicals that some how formed to be organic chemicals that became aware of itself . My brain is aware of my finger nail but is my finger nail aware of my brain ? "
"He brooded in darkness and there was no one else . Not a voice , not a whisper . Not the touch of a hand . Not the warmth of another heart . Darkness . Solitude . Eternal confinement where all was black and silent and nothing stirred . Imprisonment without prior condemnation. Punishment without sin . The unbearable that had to be borne unless some mode of escape could be devised . No hope of rescue from elsewhere . No sorrow or sympathy or pity in anoher soul , another mind . No doors to be opened , no locks to be turned , no bars to be sawn apart . Only the thick , deep sable night in. which to fumble and find nothing . Circle a hand to the right and there is nought . Sweep an arm to the left and discover emptiness utter and complete . Walk forward through the darkness like a blind man lost in a vast forgotten hall and there is no floor , no echo of footsteps , nothing to bar one's path . He could touch and sense one thing only . And that was self. Therefore the only available resources with which to overcome his predicament were those secreted within himself . His torments were those of boredom , loneliness , mental and physical sterility . They were not to be endured . The easiest escape is via the imagination . One hangs in a straight jacket and flees the corporeal trap by adventuring in a dreamland of one's own . But dreams are not enough . They are unreal and all too brief . The freedom to be gained must be genuine and of long duration . That meant he must make a stern reality of dreams , a reality so contrived that it would persist for all time . It must be self-perpetuating . Nothing less would make escape complete . So he sat in the great dark and battled the problem. There was no clock , no calendar to mark the length of thought . There was no external data upon which to compute . There was nothing , nothing except the workings within his agile mind . And one thesis , no problem is beyond solution . He found it eventually . It meant escape from everlasting night . It would provide experience , companionship , adventure , mental exercise , entertainment , warmth , love , the sound of voices , the touch of hands . The plan was anything but rudimentary . On the contrary it was complicated enough to defy untangling for endless eons . It had to be like that to have permanence . The unwanted alternative was swift return to drear silence and the bitter dark . It took a deal of working out . A million and one aspect's had to be considered along with all their diverse effects upon each other . And when that was done he had to cope with the next million . And so on.......He created a mighty dream of his own , a place of infinite complexity schemed in every detail to the last dot and comma . Within this he would live anew . But not as himself . He was going to dissipate his person into numberless parts , a tremendous multitude of variegated shapes and forms each of which would have to batt1e its own peculiar environment . And he would toughen the struggle by unthinking himself , handicapping hls parts with appalling ignorance and leaving them to learn afresh . He would seed enmity between them by dictating the basic rules of the game . Those who obeyed would be called good . Those who dld not would be ca1led bad . There would be conflicts wlthin the one great conflict . When all was ready and prepared he intended to disrupt and become not one but an enormous host of entities . Then his parts must fight their way back to unity and himself . But first he must make reality of the dream . And that was the test . The time was now . The experiment must begin . Leaning forward he gazed into the darkness and said
" LET THERE BE LIGHT " And there was light .
I have seen the Tao and travelled the middle way .I have heard the word and spoken the word . I have lived in the flesh and i have eaten the flesh . I have been blinded by the light.....
And now i believe in the supreme and mystic darkness of nothing , in the deepest reaches of the imaculate void , in infinate nothing , in the unremitting realms of nothing , in the incomprehensible infinity of untold nothing , in absolute nothing .
He brooded in darkness and there was no one else . Not a voice , not a whisper . Not the touch of a hand . Not the warmth of another heart . Darkness . Solitude . Eternal confinement where all was black and silent and nothing stirred . Imprisonment without prior condemnation. Punishment wlthout sin . The unbearable that had to be borne unless some mode of escape could be devised . No hope of rescue from elsewhere . No sorrow or sympathy or pity in anoher soul , another mind . No doors to be opened , no locks to be turned , no bars to be sawn apart . Only the thick , deep sable night in. which to fumble and find nothing.........................."
"I have had some mystical experiences with Psilocybin Mushrooms where I felt the oneness of everything, and this is what I have interperted as "God", because it is the closest I have ever been with the divine. The Mushrooms introduced me to something mystical that one can actually experience rather than install their 'experience' in beliefs."
"Everything in this world is arranged so magically, but I don't think the word God should be used to describe anything within it. I may be "God", but far from the western sense of the term. So I'd rather just stick with "I am me", a particular point of view in the vastness of creation. Even during trips I try to avoid the megalomania of thinking I'm the Creator of all that is. I'm just a particular viewpoint experiencing the world, and so is everyone else. We all dance together in some sort of harmony, which some like to call God."
"For me there is no God that judges people, to send them to heaven or hell, God does not have opinions, God does not prefer a certain kind of food on his altar, or a certain prayer, or a religion, and God does not make virgins pregnant. IMO God is the judgement, the reality we create, love and hate, the cosmos, earth, the moldy sandwich at the bottom of your kitchen bin. God is not only our life force, but also the absence of it. God is. Meditation and psychoactive plants help to experience this better, but aren’t the solution of finding him. Seeking is unnecessary, because for me, God is already here."
"I don't really believe in an anthropomorphic god, like what exists in most organized religions. But I still have a sense of god, perhaps as a process.I felt the presence of "god" on a mescaline trip. Just the feeling that all these vast processes spanning aeons in the universe such as the formation of matter, galaxies, stars, planets, amino acids etc combined to ultimately form the immediate processes of consciousness and awareness, and in this sense the universe could be called god. Processes spanning billions of years giving rise to a phenomenon which is felt purely in the moment. In this sense I began to feel during the trip that the universe itself was the ultimate organism."
"So I guess I believe in "god" in some sort of sense, that "god" represents the quest for an ultimate answer to existence. Or perhaps "God" in the sense of Einstein's god."
"every process in the universe follows some kind of pattern that we can call an effect, a force or a law. carbon atoms combine easily to form organic compounds. enough so that we expect to find amino acids on distant moons in the solar system.it seems that the conditions required to create life are practically encoded into the universe."
If anyone remembers any other posts from this forum on the subject ..... THAT ARE GOOD...... please put a link to them here .
If anyone has more to say on the subjects of "Explaining who we are , why we are here , where we are going , what
consciousness is , the secrets of life and death and the origins of religeon ." or things to add to it please do . All
comments and input are welcome .
"I believe everything is conscious, but limited to the actions that they are able to perform."
"I am conscious . I am a whole , the sum of all my parts . Parts that evolved in unison and complementary to eachother . My brain thinks = its conscious . My fingers dont think . Does that mean that my fingertips arent conscious ? Arent a part of that consciousness ? Dont play their role ? A vital role in that i wouldnt be me without them .Isnt the planet the same ? It grew together , in symbiosis with each of its parts . I am a part of the planet and i`m conscious . Doesnt that mean that the planet is conscious of itself ? Isnt the universe the same ? It grew together , in symbiosis with each of its parts . I am a part of the universe and i`m conscious . Doesnt that mean that the universe is conscious of itself ?"
"I like to see a consciousnes as a crosspoint of streams of information. Everything has a mind, but it's hard to recognise another type of mind. When two types of mind are similar, like you and your dog, it's easier to recognise the spirit behind the machinery. The mind, spirit, consciousnes,... spans between the input and output of a system. You can consider living beings as advanced chemical reaction vessels... so why won't even a small chemical reaction have a consciesnes that spans over the reaction system? The sum of all these metabolic reactions makes up our consciesnes, as we make up the consciesnes of our cities."
"We are conscious . Our brain , the seat of our consciousness was built in layers over millions of years . Isnt it so that each layer represents a different stage of evolution . Going from reptile up to us ? = where did consciousness start ? I think each layer was conscious to the limits of its structure . Just as all life has a consciousnes coresponding to itself . Do we have to define consciousness as being aware of our beig as humans are aware of it ? ( If humans had a real consciousness they would be conscious of the results of their actions and we / the planet wouldnt be in the shit ) . Are we mixing up consciousness and intelligence . Who are we to try to impose our standards of whats consciousness / intelligence on other life forms . Put a person outside with no food and no clothes and he would soon die . Do it with every other life form and it would survive = its more intelligent specific to its needs ."
"Maybe its a good idea to stop thinking of god as an old man with a white beard , a sort of cosmic godfather that we can blindly trust and give responsibility to and blame for our problems , and start to think in a more scientific , objective way about god as an unexplained theory / phenomenem . To try to define it , pin it down with a scientificaly aceptable theory . Which i think i have . The universe is undenyably aware of itself through us . It is an organism . I am an organism that is made of inorganic chemicals that some how formed to be organic chemicals that became aware of itself . My brain is aware of my finger nail but is my finger nail aware of my brain ? "
"He brooded in darkness and there was no one else . Not a voice , not a whisper . Not the touch of a hand . Not the warmth of another heart . Darkness . Solitude . Eternal confinement where all was black and silent and nothing stirred . Imprisonment without prior condemnation. Punishment without sin . The unbearable that had to be borne unless some mode of escape could be devised . No hope of rescue from elsewhere . No sorrow or sympathy or pity in anoher soul , another mind . No doors to be opened , no locks to be turned , no bars to be sawn apart . Only the thick , deep sable night in. which to fumble and find nothing . Circle a hand to the right and there is nought . Sweep an arm to the left and discover emptiness utter and complete . Walk forward through the darkness like a blind man lost in a vast forgotten hall and there is no floor , no echo of footsteps , nothing to bar one's path . He could touch and sense one thing only . And that was self. Therefore the only available resources with which to overcome his predicament were those secreted within himself . His torments were those of boredom , loneliness , mental and physical sterility . They were not to be endured . The easiest escape is via the imagination . One hangs in a straight jacket and flees the corporeal trap by adventuring in a dreamland of one's own . But dreams are not enough . They are unreal and all too brief . The freedom to be gained must be genuine and of long duration . That meant he must make a stern reality of dreams , a reality so contrived that it would persist for all time . It must be self-perpetuating . Nothing less would make escape complete . So he sat in the great dark and battled the problem. There was no clock , no calendar to mark the length of thought . There was no external data upon which to compute . There was nothing , nothing except the workings within his agile mind . And one thesis , no problem is beyond solution . He found it eventually . It meant escape from everlasting night . It would provide experience , companionship , adventure , mental exercise , entertainment , warmth , love , the sound of voices , the touch of hands . The plan was anything but rudimentary . On the contrary it was complicated enough to defy untangling for endless eons . It had to be like that to have permanence . The unwanted alternative was swift return to drear silence and the bitter dark . It took a deal of working out . A million and one aspect's had to be considered along with all their diverse effects upon each other . And when that was done he had to cope with the next million . And so on.......He created a mighty dream of his own , a place of infinite complexity schemed in every detail to the last dot and comma . Within this he would live anew . But not as himself . He was going to dissipate his person into numberless parts , a tremendous multitude of variegated shapes and forms each of which would have to batt1e its own peculiar environment . And he would toughen the struggle by unthinking himself , handicapping hls parts with appalling ignorance and leaving them to learn afresh . He would seed enmity between them by dictating the basic rules of the game . Those who obeyed would be called good . Those who dld not would be ca1led bad . There would be conflicts wlthin the one great conflict . When all was ready and prepared he intended to disrupt and become not one but an enormous host of entities . Then his parts must fight their way back to unity and himself . But first he must make reality of the dream . And that was the test . The time was now . The experiment must begin . Leaning forward he gazed into the darkness and said
" LET THERE BE LIGHT " And there was light .
I have seen the Tao and travelled the middle way .I have heard the word and spoken the word . I have lived in the flesh and i have eaten the flesh . I have been blinded by the light.....
And now i believe in the supreme and mystic darkness of nothing , in the deepest reaches of the imaculate void , in infinate nothing , in the unremitting realms of nothing , in the incomprehensible infinity of untold nothing , in absolute nothing .
He brooded in darkness and there was no one else . Not a voice , not a whisper . Not the touch of a hand . Not the warmth of another heart . Darkness . Solitude . Eternal confinement where all was black and silent and nothing stirred . Imprisonment without prior condemnation. Punishment wlthout sin . The unbearable that had to be borne unless some mode of escape could be devised . No hope of rescue from elsewhere . No sorrow or sympathy or pity in anoher soul , another mind . No doors to be opened , no locks to be turned , no bars to be sawn apart . Only the thick , deep sable night in. which to fumble and find nothing.........................."
"I have had some mystical experiences with Psilocybin Mushrooms where I felt the oneness of everything, and this is what I have interperted as "God", because it is the closest I have ever been with the divine. The Mushrooms introduced me to something mystical that one can actually experience rather than install their 'experience' in beliefs."
"Everything in this world is arranged so magically, but I don't think the word God should be used to describe anything within it. I may be "God", but far from the western sense of the term. So I'd rather just stick with "I am me", a particular point of view in the vastness of creation. Even during trips I try to avoid the megalomania of thinking I'm the Creator of all that is. I'm just a particular viewpoint experiencing the world, and so is everyone else. We all dance together in some sort of harmony, which some like to call God."
"For me there is no God that judges people, to send them to heaven or hell, God does not have opinions, God does not prefer a certain kind of food on his altar, or a certain prayer, or a religion, and God does not make virgins pregnant. IMO God is the judgement, the reality we create, love and hate, the cosmos, earth, the moldy sandwich at the bottom of your kitchen bin. God is not only our life force, but also the absence of it. God is. Meditation and psychoactive plants help to experience this better, but aren’t the solution of finding him. Seeking is unnecessary, because for me, God is already here."
"I don't really believe in an anthropomorphic god, like what exists in most organized religions. But I still have a sense of god, perhaps as a process.I felt the presence of "god" on a mescaline trip. Just the feeling that all these vast processes spanning aeons in the universe such as the formation of matter, galaxies, stars, planets, amino acids etc combined to ultimately form the immediate processes of consciousness and awareness, and in this sense the universe could be called god. Processes spanning billions of years giving rise to a phenomenon which is felt purely in the moment. In this sense I began to feel during the trip that the universe itself was the ultimate organism."
"So I guess I believe in "god" in some sort of sense, that "god" represents the quest for an ultimate answer to existence. Or perhaps "God" in the sense of Einstein's god."
"every process in the universe follows some kind of pattern that we can call an effect, a force or a law. carbon atoms combine easily to form organic compounds. enough so that we expect to find amino acids on distant moons in the solar system.it seems that the conditions required to create life are practically encoded into the universe."
If anyone remembers any other posts from this forum on the subject ..... THAT ARE GOOD...... please put a link to them here .
If anyone has more to say on the subjects of "Explaining who we are , why we are here , where we are going , what
consciousness is , the secrets of life and death and the origins of religeon ." or things to add to it please do . All
comments and input are welcome .
rayer: GOD!!!! hail GOD!!!!!!!!!!
