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the fake people syndrome

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hi all!!

i am talking about the people, that are basically a split personality. what they do is spending a lot of energy into
pretending how the world and everything is alright, while they deep inside know that it's not. i suppose it's maybe
an enforced indoctrination by society or something like that. it makes them identify with the ego-mind so much,
that they can't truly feel themselves and the world and hence have so much suffering in them accumulated, that they
almost seem to have to project their ego-mind and negativity that comes with it on the world, other people, etc etc...
i have noticed this kind of thing in myself and in others and it made me very sad...
in my opinion, the reason for it is most likely to be found in childhood, because the experiences we make then and how we make these, define the concept of experience, that we will make the rest of our lives... well we do make changes to it, but the basis of it mostly seems to be formed as children... and if we remember that and how we were once childs, we would also remember how reality and life are themselves probably like a psychedelic experience or a dream...

so i guess what i am getting at is that at some point of our lives we start to identify with the transient appearances of
our beings so much, that we get ensnared by the conditions/conditionings of them. it seems to me we should be aware,
that it's not possible and most probably not beneficial to try to condition the infinite, that the source of every being is.
but since in the so called "modern and civilised" western society it seems to be pretty common to reduce people to
their (supposed) function, it would also make sense that people compulsively do that to themselves also.
i say you can't judge someone until you have lived their life.
it appears to me also that the not-acceptance of that fact, leads to compulsive, mostly social (or rather anti-social?)
behaviour.

they don't know who they are, hence they don't know what they are doing, so pay attention and stay aware to
protect your energy from such vampires. but still try to distinguish between needless and exagerated paranoia, that create vicious cycles of fear or even fear of the fear (lol easier said than done but try it, just observe yourself as much as you can)....
the thing is, that they don't know better (that's why we should forgive them), so it seems all they do is to produce suffering,
but that is not entirely negative at all. suffering can and should be used for enlightenment instead of just using it
to multiply the suffering. maybe possibly it's like making mistakes and since you can learn from mistakes they have a very positive aspect, too. think about if you didn't make a certain mistake, would you then also been able to learn a certain possibly very important
thing??? basically it boils down to that you could see anything as an opportunity to learn. the ability or disability to do so,
defines the positivity of the experience of the past, present and future. if you ask me it's very important to be able
to laugh about yourself in order to not take the world or yourself too seriously too much. and if you can laugh about yourself,
you then also don't need anyone else to laugh about, if you want to laugh, lol.... :lol:

discuss please i think it's a very actual and interesting topic.


peace
 
People who pretend the world is fine but deep down they don't like it.

How many people like this do you know?!

Are you sure they are even there or are you placing an image on them that you think is right?

I know there are some people, plenty of girls especially that act like everything is great, everything is fine, but deep down, before going to bed, their minds race about who they are, what they are doing.

But are you really looking at them, or are you simply externalizing the problem?

The way you post, brain, structurally is hard to follow - it is stream of consciousness and to a point where I can't connect the dots so if you'll excuse me if this is a bit of a redundant post.
 
become a monk bro.

No seriously, i see the point you're trying to make, but you're giving both questions and answers in your post.

So what ?

Do people have ego problem ? I guess , so am i sometimes.

But i don't think that make me "fake people" , au contraire , regular people do have ego issue.

But some of thems can't see it. You can , so you are lucky, or maybe not , u just got to deal with it.
The question to ask to yourself it's : how can i do my best for what i believe rigth now .
Others existential questions migth slow you down on your way.

But maybe it's just the drugs talking... :rolleyes:
 
:D i follow you BrainEater. it can be sad to look around and see the unconsciousness in people all of the time. but really this is a matter of perspective. one could also be happy for having the awareness to see this in the first place instead of being absorbed into it.

also, related to this:
another reason to not get upset by this is because, in getting upset/deeply involved with any given person ("vampire"/"leacher" archetype) you have done exactly what they wanted, that is, given them your energy. this though is not necessarily a bad thing, because if done consciously, one may be able to help the person somewhat, without giving too much of ones personal energy. the awareness becomes a way to replenish ones energy as well. once finished giving energy to the leacher, detatch and recharge. it's all esoteric talk, and really metaphoric, yet quite literal too, if anyone follows the terminology of archetypes/magick...

really, it's all about doing all one can to help, but realizing that one can only do so much, so if sucess is not immediately apparent, it's ok. have faith in ones ability, and be able to let go of a situation, that is, do not rehash the scenario over and over like "i should have done this or that or that" after it has passed. one did all they could because that's what they did or could do! :lol:

i find energy, and how it relates to archetypes/language/linguistics very interesting.
 
thanks for the answers... :P good answers... made me reconsider some shit in a good way...

IJesusChrist a dit:
People who pretend the world is fine but deep down they don't like it.

How many people like this do you know?!

Are you sure they are even there or are you placing an image on them that you think is right?

I know there are some people, plenty of girls especially that act like everything is great, everything is fine, but deep down, before going to bed, their minds race about who they are, what they are doing.

But are you really looking at them, or are you simply externalizing the problem?

The way you post, brain, structurally is hard to follow - it is stream of consciousness and to a point where I can't connect the dots so if you'll excuse me if this is a bit of a redundant post.


i know a lot people like that... almost everyone i know is more or less like that... you appear to be like that, too...
(to me and to some extent) yes i agree... sometimes i am projecting my bias, too.... but i try and train myself to not do that very much..
but maybe you also didn't understand fullly what i said or how i meant it, like you said.
i mean what i said more like a apparently unnatural/artificial mechanism for suppressing shit. (and abusing that for the advantage of the ego or so)
like people who don't like their own ego and therefore ignore it and can't even see it. so to some of that kind you
have to show them who they are to you and who they appear to be... so that they can recognize... but then again....
some very ignorant of them even try to ignore that.... they ignore and then they ignore that they ignore....
so yeah sometimes all you can give is a kick in a jaw... right?? LOL

Ouroboros a dit:
become a monk bro.

No seriously, i see the point you're trying to make, but you're giving both questions and answers in your post.

So what ?

Do people have ego problem ? I guess , so am i sometimes.

But i don't think that make me "fake people" , au contraire , regular people do have ego issue.

But some of thems can't see it. You can , so you are lucky, or maybe not , u just got to deal with it.
The question to ask to yourself it's : how can i do my best for what i believe rigth now .
Others existential questions migth slow you down on your way.

But maybe it's just the drugs talking... :rolleyes:

yeah man positive thinking ftw.... totally!!!!!!!!! and yeah dealing with shit .... facing yourself, your dark side, your fears, etc etc.... that kind of shit right??? :)
you're right.. it's all now... :D 8)



ophiuchus a dit:
:D i follow you BrainEater. it can be sad to look around and see the unconsciousness in people all of the time. but really this is a matter of perspective. one could also be happy for having the awareness to see this in the first place instead of being absorbed into it.

also, related to this:
another reason to not get upset by this is because, in getting upset/deeply involved with any given person ("vampire"/"leacher" archetype) you have done exactly what they wanted, that is, given them your energy. this though is not necessarily a bad thing, because if done consciously, one may be able to help the person somewhat, without giving too much of ones personal energy. the awareness becomes a way to replenish ones energy as well. once finished giving energy to the leacher, detatch and recharge. it's all esoteric talk, and really metaphoric, yet quite literal too, if anyone follows the terminology of archetypes/magick...

really, it's all about doing all one can to help, but realizing that one can only do so much, so if sucess is not immediately apparent, it's ok. have faith in ones ability, and be able to let go of a situation, that is, do not rehash the scenario over and over like "i should have done this or that or that" after it has passed. one did all they could because that's what they did or could do! :lol:

i find energy, and how it relates to archetypes/language/linguistics very interesting.

yeah man lol... i haven't looked at it that way... i have gotten into cycles of hate/anger/pain because of that kind of people, but now i just pity them mostly. it's like finding a optimal way to react or not to react to that kind of "people"... some are
almost monsters lol.... i figured brainwashing or hypnosis is a good method if they are too attached to the destructive
part of their ego/personality...

i agree also with the argument of not getting stuck in negativity, unnecessarily. it seems some are addicted to it, like ego drama.... that kind of shit you know??? they know it so much from TV, movies, soap operas etc etc that they seemingly can't live without it... lol so pathetic... poor devils really...
or lol...sometimes it even appears like kindergarden... but on another level.... like stuck in a crazy roleplay "game" or so LOL........

yeah man mental energy and the stuff that got to do with it is a very interesting topic for sure...

like flashing text commands microseconds in advertisements or even movies lol.... LOL :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


peace
 
since you have the awareness, you may transmute energy as well. that is to say, you may also use techniques like hypnosis and brainwashing ("black magick") but transmute the energy (to "white magick") via doing it for a noble cause, so that the person may gain awareness through it, instead of in manipulative ways. this naturally takes practice of course, as subtlety is key.
 
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