The Big One

[Teonanacapilli]

I wanted to leave this as a reply to the suicide thread, but it seems off topic and probably deserves it's own heading.

I wonder if there is any way to know if there was ever any serial killers and such before the dawn of agriculture/cities. My belief is that we will always be a ruined bunch of animals, never reaching "civilization" as we have prematurely called ourselves, as long as we continue to exist in cities, especially without any movement. It's hard to be motivated to do good by the earth with a materialist mindset. Much easier to have those beers after work and be couch potato every evening isn't it?

Maybe we are just at a dirty, primitive stage of our development, light is just over the hilltop (2012?). But humans have historically been a tribal, nomadic species, cities seem the antithesis of this. Cities are a poison, a cancer that spreads and consumes. People are not nice to each other in cities, especially the big ones. Sure, you can catch a moment of goodness, but compare it to a village in the Amazon, or to a group of nomads on the steppes.

Society is sick today, I don't say we CANNOT live properly in cities and the way we are now. But people are stupid and hard to organize (especially nearly 7 billion). So, this may be terribly cynical or disturbing, but I think it's about time for a pandemic! We have and continue to work against natural selection, constantly decreasing it's effects on our population and that isn't fair, we don't deserve that kind of advantage one bit.

The collective consciousness of humanity is no good, illegit! I think it's the consciousness that is the root of all of what we do. So what shall we do proactively to fix it? It can start here even, we have members around the globe! Maybe I should go 'head and ask, what are YOU doing? Little, big, it adds up right?

I don't know, that is pretty jumbled up and probably not all that coherent. If you can build on what I've said or have an argument, or just a comment, please. I would really like to discuss these ideas.

 

[IJesusChrist]

I let the polititians kill themselves, the companies go bankrupt, but if I could I WOULD stop oil and the burning of fossil fuels.

But what I AM doing is constructing energy efficiency, so that if we DO make it to a better psychology, a better society, we can atleast sustain it.

 

[Teonanacapilli]

Thanks IJC! I forgot to say what I am doing. As of this moment now I am quite preoccupied with working on my head problems. But when I am done travelling (surveying the situation?), I want to go back to school and have a career in environmental reclamation. I think it is one of the most direct ways I can help the planet. I want to start here in Alberta, Canada, as it is ground zero for environmental atrocities in the country, I think.

As for helping people, I would like to write books. Publish art of any kind (films especially) that could inspire change.

 

[darkwolfunseen]

Nanacapilli, I am just about as cynical as you about humanity. The old phrase "g-d made man, but smith and wesson made them equal" comes to mind. I think that whether we our in packs our by ourselves, we must be an inferior creature because only a few of us even reach a level of spiritual sustenance. Even less maintain it. Here's the saddest part of all: It is dangerous to reach a level of true happiness with oneself, as it makes you complacent, and all of the ignorance and evil (using the term lightly) can reach you. So maybe that's it, a damned if you do and damned if you don't approach, a kind of waiting game until that day comes when we don't exist. I wonder if by that point, humanity will still want to exist.

 

[BrainEater]

already happending...pandemics on the way, population control/reduction already happening.... swine flu, HIV, social differentiatioon and attempts to purge lower classes etc what have you, but well the cancer needs to be purged ain't it? but well do we want to stop it or are we alright with that or can we even change it?

peace