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Mr.Assange, now awaiting trail or fines, has been the head story for many in-the-know people. The man is a mysterious fellow, but seems to be one of the brightest of this day and age - especially in information retrieval and technology:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/ ... 2010-12-08

The full story is easily google-able;

Despite the incarceration of founder Julian Assange, WikiLeaks is not going away quietly. In fact, Web-savvy supporters of the online whistle-blowing operation have gone on the offensive, launching cyber attacks against Web sites of some of the organizations and people perceived to have wronged Assange and his operation.

Mastercard, which earlier this week announced it would not enable payments to WikiLeaks via its credit-card processing systems, has had its Web site rendered inaccessible several times in the past day. Visa made a similar announcement, and its Web site was likewise down Wednesday afternoon. PayPal, which ended its affiliation with WikiLeaks, was up and running as of post time, but cyber security firm PandaLabs reports that ThePayPalBlog.com has experienced 77 interruptions equaling a total downtime of more than eight hours in the past 24 hours.

Tha man is quickly becoming a hero for all those intelligent enough to question.
 
I agree.


Let me ask, do you think he's guilty of what he's been charged with?


Many people may not realize it but this is the opening salvo, and something is about to begin that many people won't really get, because many ostrich-beings inhabit the earth.


It's an information war, in the real sense of the word.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/10/world/10wiki.html

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Their game is always the same; to discredit one in the 'perception of the public'


Whether its by making them look like a child molester, rapist, nutjob, or whatever, slurring someone when you control the media is pretty easy.


Why is that all of a sudden, now, Mr. Assange is accused?


Kinda convenient?


I'm a HUGE FAN of Wikileaks.



http://213.251.145.96/
 
Btw Spice, one should hide what one knows in order to make some space for both characters again. We were divided by nature, none of both sides has the right to captivate one of the other by putting a 100 per cent indigo sign in the sun.
 
I'm going to buy some digital items, it feels good to know I can give my fellow homo sapiens a sincere tap on the shoulder.
 
brug, I really enjoy reading your posts, but sometimes I wish they'd be a bit more translucent.
 
The international manhunt for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a sex-crime investigation in Sweden apparently stems from a condom malfunction.

Assange's London attorney, Mark Stephens, told AOL News today that Swedish prosecutors told him that Assange is wanted not for allegations of rape, as previously reported, but for something called "sex by surprise," which he said involves a fine of 5,000 kronor or about $715.

Assange is the subject of an international manhunt, as a result of Interpol issuing a "red notice," a warrant indicating the person should be arrested with a view to extradition.


"We don't even know what 'sex by surprise' even means, and they haven't told us," Stephens said, just hours after Sweden's Supreme Court rejected Assange's bid to prevent an arrest order from being issued against him on allegations of sex crimes.

"Whatever 'sex by surprise' is, it's only a offense in Sweden -- not in the U.K. or the U.S. or even Ibiza," Stephens said. "I feel as if I'm in a surreal Swedish movie being threatened by bizarre trolls. The prosecutor has not asked to see Julian, never asked to interview him, and he hasn't been charged with anything. He's been told he's wanted for questioning, but he doesn't know the nature of the allegations against him."

The strange tale of Assange's brief flings with two Swedish women during a three-day period in mid-August -- and decisions by three different prosecutors to first dismiss rape allegations made by the women and then re-open the case -- has more twists, turns and conspiracy theories than any of Stieg Larsson's best-sellers.

True, one of Assange's accusers sounds tailor-made for those who think Assange is being set up in Sweden by dark CIA-backed operatives who want him smeared or silenced for his document dumping with WikiLeaks. She's a 31-year-old blond academic and member of the Social Democratic Party who's known for her radical feminist views, once wrote a treatise on how to take revenge against men and was once thrown out of Cuba for subversive activities.

But others say Assange, who denies any wrongdoing and says the sex was consensual, may have just run afoul of Sweden's unusual rape laws, which are considered pro-feminist because of the consideration given issues of consent when it comes to sexual activity -- including even the issue of whether a condom was used.

In fact, the current prosecutor, Marianne Ny, who re-opened the case against Assange, has been active in the proposed reforms of Swedish rape laws that would, if passed, involve an investigation of whether an imbalance in power between two people could void one person's insistence that the sex was consensual.

Swedish tabloids and the country's blogosphere have been rife since August with stories and speculation about Assange's accusers, the flip-flopping prosecutors and just what, if any, crime was committed by Assange during sex with the two women.

"He's innocent, that I can tell you," Bjorn Hurtig, Assange's Stockholm-based lawyer, told AOL News today. Hurtig later issued a statement saying the international arrest warrant for Assange is based on "exaggerated grounds."

Assange arrived in Sweden on Aug. 11 to speak at a weekend seminar sponsored by the Social Democratic Party and arranged to stay at a Stockholm apartment belonging to the event organizer, a member of the branch of the party who would become one of Assange's two accusers.

According to a police report obtained by the Daily Mail in August, she and Assange had sex, and at some point the condom broke. While she was apparently not happy about the condom breaking, the two were seen the next day at the seminar, and nothing appeared amiss.

Another woman at the seminar, a 27-year-old art photographer, said in her police statement that she'd come to hear Assange's lecture because of her fascination with him and his work. She can be seen in video footage on the Internet sitting in the front row during Assange's lecture, wearing a pink sweater and snapping pictures of him.

According to the police report, the woman managed to get an invitation to go out for lunch with Assange and his entourage after the seminar. They spent time together before he went back to stay at the event organizer's apartment.

Two days later, on Aug. 16, they reconnected by phone and the woman invited him to her apartment, more than 40 miles outside Stockholm. She paid for the ticket since Assange apparently had no cash and doesn't like to use credit cards because they could be traced.

She complained in her police statement that during the train ride to her hometown, "he paid more attention to his computer rather than me." She also said that by the time they arrived at her apartment, "the passion and excitement seemed to have disappeared."

The woman and Assange also reportedly had sex. According to the Daily Mail account, Assange did not use a condom at least one time during their sexual activity. The New York Times today quoted accounts given by the women to police and friends as saying Assange "did not comply with her appeals to stop when (the condom) was no longer in use."

According to the Swedish tabloid Aftonbladet, the photographer contacted the other woman two days after her assignation with Assange, and the two apparently had a conversation in which it became clear they had both had sex with Assange. The photographer was worried about having had unprotected sex and decided she wanted to go to the police.

The other woman accompanied her to the police station on Aug. 20 just to support her but then told the investigating officer on duty that she, too, had had sex with Assange, Aftonbladet reported.

Based on what was said to police, the on-call prosecutor, Marie Kjellstrand, decided to issue an arrest warrant on charges of rape and molestation, and the next day the story hit the Swedish paper Expressen and newspapers all over the world.

Kjellstrand's decision was overruled the following day by a higher-level prosecutor, Eva Finne, who withdrew the arrest warrant and said she did not see any evidence for rape allegations.

Then, on Sept. 1, a third prosecutor, Ny, re-opened the rape investigation, implying that she had new information in the case.

On Nov. 18, Swedish judicial officials approved a prosecutorial request that Assange be detained for questioning for alleged sex crimes, and on Nov. 30 Interpol issued a "red notice" against Assange for alleged sex crimes in Sweden. Despite what has happened, the woman who organized the event and had Assange stay at her apartment told Aftonbladet that she never intended that Assange be charged with rape.


"It is quite wrong that we were afraid of him. He is not violent, and I do not feel threatened by him," she told the newspaper in an interview that did not identify her by name. "The responsibility for what happened to me and the other girl lies with a man who had attitude problems with women."

When the second accuser was reached on her mobile phone today by AOL News, she said simply, "I have nothing to say on the matter."

Stephens, Assange's lawyer, said that even though British police know Assange's whereabouts -- reportedly in southeastern England -- they have not yet arrested him because of the inadequacy of the arrest warrants issued by Sweden.

"The Swedes couldn't even produce another warrant today that was valid," Stephens told AOL News. "The police here sent it back."



this is a classic fucking hack smear job




Sounds like the only 'sex by surprise' that really happened is the fucking the US government is taking from wikileaks.



Again, it has begun.
 
you all understand that the gist of this is that interpol issued an international manhunt because of an alleged broken condom


talk about 'he said, she said'
 
many girls were suprized when i said i would pull out and, well you know.
does that open me up to prosecution???
well fuck me!
i guess that's the fucking you get for the fucking you give.
 
It all sounds like a pro-feminist witch hunt backed by the angry CIA who have failed to secure some of their most vital secrets, Everything leaked proves blow for blow these people tell us lies to stir our emotions to create backing for the invasion of other countrys all based on personal gain while not even caring about the innocent people or even the troops involved.

Its all a big joke really.... I just hope Britain keep rejecting the extradition order and keep Assange here

:finga: Swedish prosecution and your fucked up rape laws :butthead: :rolleyes: :lol:
 
Two points-


1) I do NOT care if the condom broke, slipped off, was fluorescent green, or had little feelers on it......I DON'T CARE, these were adults in consensual activity and this is the type of tactic that those who fear him most like to use when anyone uses the publics perception against them.....

deception and sleight of hand are the magicians stock-in-trade


the publics perception is much like wild wolves- capricious and fearsome......throw them some meat and stand back



2)

Ad hominem abuse
Ad hominem abuse (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to invalidate his or her argument, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.

Examples:

"You can't believe Jack when he says the proposed policy would help the economy. He doesn't even have a job."
"Candidate Jane's proposal about zoning is ridiculous. She was caught cheating on her taxes in 2003."



''throw them some meat and stand back'
 
Bradley Manning:

The real Assange...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning

Most notibly he was the man that released the collateral murder video, along with some thousands of documents assange has voluntarily (or maybe involuntarily) taken credit for.

He's been in solitary confinement for nearly 6 months or so. He is not allowed to excercise, read, talk, or move other than pacing. The purpose is torture.

... Free Bradley Manning.
 
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