Strong control over your own mind

[sgrrsh26]

I am wondering how many of you have a very strong control over your mind. Can you let go of anger, fear, pull happiness from inside? This is about where I am in my spiritual advancements.

I've gotten to the point of playing with my mind. Experimenting so to say. I like to trick my kind into thinking absurd things, like I've been living by myself this whole time and my girlfriend is an imagination,
or the God is experiencing life through us all, and in my story he is experiencing a world in which the main character (me) is capable of manifesting creation.

I'm not crazy, I was but I feel like I have such good control as I decelope.
Can this process be used in meditation in any way? As I feel like that is the next step in my spiritual growth. I'm just unsure where or how to start.

I experimented with salvia once before but I'd apprecieate more grwoth before experimenting again. Any tips guys?

 

[IJesusChrist]

What you're controlling is Art, not the mind. You are controlling a specific part of the mind. That is what I used to think, my imagination was extensive, I could imagine 3-dimensional images, draw, and contemplate very abstract ideas as a child, much greater than my peers. However, this is only a fraction of the mind, albeit a very important one, it is still a small portion.

To control the mind is to accept the mind, through & above acception is control. First, you must be able to allow the mind to feel pain, fear, anger, sadness, etc (along with bliss), and upon this surrender to your emotions, you will find that that is the key to control.

 

[trick]

I am wondering how many of you have a very strong control over your mind. Can you let go of anger, fear, pull happiness from inside? This is about where I am in my spiritual advancements.

I've gotten to the point of playing with my mind. Experimenting so to say. I like to trick my kind into thinking absurd things, like I've been living by myself this whole time and my girlfriend is an imagination,
or the God is experiencing life through us all, and in my story he is experiencing a world in which the main character (me) is capable of manifesting creation.

I'm not crazy, I was but I feel like I have such good control as I decelope.
Can this process be used in meditation in any way? As I feel like that is the next step in my spiritual growth. I'm just unsure where or how to start.

I experimented with salvia once before but I'd apprecieate more grwoth before experimenting again. Any tips guys?

well that would be the ultimate control of the mind wouldnt it?
or the ultimate loss of the mind.

but is there really a diffrence?

 

[Crimzen]

you are your mind
so whats controlling what?

 

[trick]

you are your mind
so whats controlling what?

legitimate point.
makes one wounder dosent it?

 

[Crimzen]

subconscious controlling the conscious or the other way around?

if the conscious mind could control the subconscious then i guess that'd be complete control..
but in gaining control im sure you would lose a great deal

i dont try to control my mind, i just explore and observe it in an effort to understand it

 

[Teonanacapilli]

Let it be, man. We aren't brain experts and the brain experts don't know shit I have a feeling you could really put yourself in the wrong direction by trying to "control" your mind. What's outside matters more, to me anyways.

Explore inside to make exploring outside easier

 

[darkwolfunseen]

I've found in my entire life, in times of quiet desperation, your mind is opened, and you begin to realize how little control you really have over your mind in daily life. So as said above, I say focus less on "control" and more on peace.

 

[DaZeD]

Let it be, man. We aren't brain experts and the brain experts don't know shit I have a feeling you could really put yourself in the wrong direction by trying to "control" your mind. What's outside matters more, to me anyways.

Explore inside to make exploring outside easier

So true man!
Once you believe you are able to control your own mind i guess your mind is fooling you bigtime.

Science knows still very little about the human brain, i thought 22 percent (don't ask me how you calculate a percentage, i'm clueless ).

I guess it'll leave you delusional .

Meditation on the other hand can teach you a lot about your own mind i noticed, and not by thinking, just by simply relaxing the brain, i think (think ) we all think too much about unrelevant matters.

 

[ararat]

Meditation on the other hand can teach you a lot about your own mind i noticed, and not by thinking, just by simply relaxing the brain, i think (think ) we all think too much about unrelevant matters.

+100

doesn't even have to be meditation, being conscious about that ongoing (and often circling) thought process is enough. just observe what you are thinking, what you are doing, and you'll find yourself quite lucid it's like that at least for me. when I do meditation I have the feeling as if I have to be all calm and shit, that something really special ought to happen. when I'm in everyday life on the other hand, it's quite easy to find a calm mind. walking slowly, perceiving what's going on inside and subsequently outside, no need to hurry.

spirituality is not thinking about god, it's feeling the wind stroking your skin. (imho)


also trying to control your mind will leave you hopelessly frustrated, for it's not possible. who controls the controller? and who controls that controller? and who controls that controller? etc. to infinity.

 

[ophiuchus]

I am wondering how many of you have a very strong control over your mind. Can you let go of anger, fear, pull happiness from inside? This is about where I am in my spiritual advancements.

I've gotten to the point of playing with my mind. Experimenting so to say. I like to trick my kind into thinking absurd things, like I've been living by myself this whole time and my girlfriend is an imagination,
or the God is experiencing life through us all, and in my story he is experiencing a world in which the main character (me) is capable of manifesting creation.

I'm not crazy, I was but I feel like I have such good control as I decelope.
Can this process be used in meditation in any way? As I feel like that is the next step in my spiritual growth. I'm just unsure where or how to start.

I experimented with salvia once before but I'd apprecieate more grwoth before experimenting again. Any tips guys?

i can let go of my emotions (i prefer to say "come to terms with them.."), but only if i make it a conscious effort, and only (with any solid efficiency) as of late, i have been handling aggression issues since i was a child. horrible mentally abusive childhood will do it. it is definitely important and a good thing to feel them, but it is also equally as valuable (imo) to at least be able to let go of them on command at certain times. just to have the element of control.

now im not saying you are doing this necesarily, but there's something that you should know about "control". it's not control in the sense of you, for instance, using a joystick. it's not a task that requires exerting any force of any kind. you find your control at rest or in a very calm state, and never with effort, for it's very fundamental rules make it this way.

 

[VerusDeus]

The only control over the mind to regain is the basically the abillity to silence the mind. I think we are more or less conditioned to have a hectic mindset which is inherently accompanied by quite erratic trains of thought(strangely enough this is mostly amplified during my personal psychonautic venturing...*). All you have to do is train yourself to be able to think of nothing at all, either by accepting your train of thought and more or less waiting 'till it dies out(Taoism) or by consciously maintaining a still mind(Zen).

*It's not amplified by psychedelics, but I am more aware of it, and thus it becomes much more noticeable that it is actually quite inconvenient. I suppose someone who is completely Zen, can remain completely calm mentally without much effort during a trip.

(The Taoism and Zen explanation is my personal interpretation, and though I have read a bit about both I am not an expert, so don't take my word for it.)

Edit:
Quote "you are your mind, so who's controlling what"
Good point! It really depends on whether you believe in materialism(we are body & brain) or if you believe in the spirit or soul(we are something attached to this body). In the latter the mind becomes the interface through which your 'essence' perceives and interacts with the world.

Peace.

 

[Jeniger]

The only control over the mind to regain is the basically the abillity to silence the mind. I think we are more or less conditioned to have a hectic mindset which is inherently accompanied by quite erratic trains of thought(strangely enough this is mostly amplified during my personal psychonautic venturing...*). All you have to do is train yourself to be able to think of nothing at all, either by accepting your train of thought and more or less waiting 'till it dies out(Taoism) or by consciously maintaining a still mind(Zen).

*It's not amplified by psychedelics, but I am more aware of it, and thus it becomes much more noticeable that it is actually quite inconvenient. I suppose someone who is completely Zen, can remain completely calm mentally without much effort during a trip.

(The Taoism and Zen explanation is my personal interpretation, and though I have read a bit about both I am not an expert, so don't take my word for it.)

Nicely said, I completely agree with this!

Stop the inner dialogue, only observe the now, without any judgement or identification. Using your thinking as a tool, not being lived by your thoughts.

 

[Brugmansia]

“The internal dialogue is what grounds people in the daily world. The world is such and such or so and so, only because we talk to ourselves about its being such and such and so and so. The passageway into the world of shamans opens up after the warrior has learned to shut off his internal dialogue. The self-confidence of the warrior is not the self-confidence of the average man. The average man seeks certainty in the eyes of the onlooker and calls that self-confidence. The warrior seeks impeccability in his own eyes and calls that humbleness. The average man is hooked to his fellow men, while the warrior is hooked only to infinity.” Carlos Castaneda

Getting caught up in everlasting insights based on the customary world is an aspect many get used to but it's really nothing new and enlighting in the long-term. It's poor to use it as an elevator for the world we know and our life within it. One might find one's self in a repetetive story line since the encryption of the ordinary life gets merely divided untill the journey is over.

Penetrate the visions and live the dream with utter lucidity, everything in the object oriented world can be effortlessy created within one's consciousness, even the accompanying body sensations will strick with the happenings one lives. Not even a physical movement required. The object oriented world is just there to keep the physique healthy and live the life of a shaman for the longest time as possible.

There are many reasons why one might squeezes one's self if going more straight forward and deeper into the dream, it takes years of practise, but staying with letting go and merely perceive the waves of a trip is remaining ignorant of a grand intellectual power.