stimulant plants--western US

[rkgrkg]

Ok, weird post here. I'm looking for a native western US plant that's used as a stimulant. Basically, a plant that could make someone silly-hyper and/or violent. It must be smoked. This is for research for a novel. (It's got fantasy elements, so I'll probably take some liberties and genetically enhance the plant, but I want it to sound as realistic as possible.) I've done some checking, (found things like poppies and ephedra) but haven't found the right plant yet, if it's even possible. Thanks in advance for any ideas! (^-^)v

 

[drizzit]

check plant's from D&D OGL at sites like - SRDlant Type - D&D Wiki - and ill put a list for you although these are fake. this list is from a post i put up in the lounge forum - http://www.psychonaut.com/lounge/44246-d-d.html - if you've never played D&D you'd love it if your writing a fantasy novel, the way the dice help you tell the stories will surprise you on how much the randomness actually reflect's on the characters. A simple crit hit/miss can make your whole story much more interesting. but that's just my opinion and im not a writer soo you know ya dont gotta care for any of what i say. but im glad if this helps

Belladonna: This herb is used to relieve aches and pains, reduce
inflammation, relieve coughs or used as an anesthetic.

Feverfew: This herb can be used to induce sleep, reduce fevers,
and alleviate headaches or arthritis.

Garlic: This herb is effective at repelling vampires. It may be
used to treat bacterial infection, viral infection, fungal infection,
and intestinal parasites

Hollyhock: This herb can be used to treat burns, relieve itching,
and reduce inflammation. It may also be used to treat diarrhea
and intestinal parasites.

Rue: This herb may ward against demons or their worshippers.
It may also be used in a pain relieving poultice, or internally as a
relaxant or to treat cough or diarrhea.

Sage: This herb has diverse uses, including treatment of
bacterial or fungal infection, treatment of spasms, or to aid
powers of concentration. This herb may also be a component of
cleansing folk rituals.

Spiderwort: This herb may be used to treat poisonous stings or
bites. It is also used as a laxative or to treat kidney, stomach, or
other digestive problems.

Wolfsbane: This herb can be used to repel lycanthropes. It may
be used to treat inflammation and wounds.

Yarrow: This herb may be used as an antiseptic and antibiotic
or to treat illness. It can be used on wounds to help stop
bleeding.

 

[drizzit]

the best part of D&D is, it helps you write a crap load of stories in a fake world that makes complete sense! Because awesome nerds need in depth detail to take strategic advantage. Also... OGL allows you to rip off there info, unless your about to make money off it but that's solved with a few creative changes to the item . Don't forget mushrooms/fungus, I feel a mushrooms can grow to do anything.

 

[rkgrkg]

I checked out a few plants on your list that I hadn't already researched, but nothing fit. Anyway, thanks your time and suggestions. I'll keep searching.

 

[drizzit]

i wouldn't suggest it in real life but you can smoke mushroom's.

 

[ophiuchus]

nearly all active psilocybin would be destroyed in the process...

 

[Mrjelly]

Not sure about stimulants but they have to be there, I cant believe that Caffeine and Cocaine (along with ephedra) are the only ones out there.

 

[drizzit]

Thats why I say smoke a mushroom it don't gotta be active or nothing for this storey but it could have desired effect and id believe someone smoking a random mushroom or even eatting and getting this authors desired effects.

 

[ophiuchus]

yeah i could see that. you know, it's purported that we've only discovered maybe 5% of the worlds fungi? kinda crazy to think about with things like lsd and penicillin being discovered only in the past century or so... then of course there's cubensis. makes you wonder what possibilities the rest have to offer.

 

[drizzit]

Sometimes when I read this I invision my self and like minded others holding wooden shurlock and debating. . But id love to see what other psychoactives are out there I'd like to see psychoactive sea life or water plants/mold/fungus

 

[ophiuchus]

for sure!

you know, after going around to other parts of the internet, (shroomery is a good example) i have really come to appreciate the level of maturity present here. i feel like we can all really talk to each other instead of just spamming and spraying our opinions onto hundreds of people doing the same, nobody listening or developing ideas. it is rather like sitting around a nice cozy fire and telling stories. this forum may not be booming with the activity of other places, but i dont think it would be the same if it was. :smirk:

 

[drizzit]

^ same feelings in all honestlie. The shroomery will bash the hell out of you if your not careful writing, they love to point out typos and the responds seem snutie. But there are good people to be had there none the less and I frequent this site the shroomery and the goblinoid games forum that it for me. I'll add the shroomery mushroom identification thread helps me every time I hunt with vary spot on results and helpful tips but I suppose the site is for mushrooms specifically then it blew up. But the psychonaut's here are awsome, nice, considerate respectful, second guessing/viewing from another perspective and thoughtful. This site is by far the the comfyist place to exchange knowledge in my opinion.


Aside from that does anyone know of good psychoactive sealife? Like plants/animal's/fungus or mold that lives there complet earthly existince in a body of water. But powerful anuf to effect us like mushrooms or somethig along those lines.

 

[ophiuchus]

yes, the shroomery certainly has great value, though sometimes it can be too much.

the sea is another untapped frontier. once again, we haven't even come close to discovering 10 percent of it... i think you'd hear though if something like that were discovered.

 

[Mrjelly]

That would be a great idea, anyway to have a gathering of psychonauts? It should be someplace that we could comfortably have a fire, if possible cool and green!

 

[ophiuchus]

there was a meeting, some years ago. but the face of psychonaut was different. i think they all met in amsterdam or somewhere close by. of course it was the most convenient place because most of the user-base was in europe. it would be interesting to try to organize one now, because everyone seems to be so widespread...

 

[drizzit]

What about regional gatherings? And not to make it a for sure thing until there's for sure signed up people. Start a topic like psychonaut shindig, Rochester NY bluecross arena gathering although if it took place in ny everyone would most likley end up arrested I know I would love to meet fellow psychonauts straight and stoned then would want to have something to share for this meeting to alter our mind's but maybe we should do our gatherings at music festivels so if we did meet up some how and altered are minds we could chill and talk with live music. Just my thoughts you don't gotta care or listen to me . This site seems to be used more by people not in america.

 

[Mrjelly]

Amsterdam is not that far these days! I think it would be a great place to meet! Regional is cool to! You know I have never been to New York, every where else (not really but a lot of places) but never seen the big apple.

 

[drizzit]

Iv lived in NY most all my life and have never been to nyc and have no intent on ever going there I wish nyc was its own state because nyc is what makes these taxes shitty around here and all I hear is how dirty it is, like a plastic bag in every tree. I live in western ny, wine country allthough I don't drink

 

[Mrjelly]

Yea I hear you about it being dirty, but you should see Asia! It is a strange place, I cant wait to get there but after being in Asia for a couple of weeks I cant wait to get back. I have never been to NYC but I cant imagine it being dirtier than some of the places I have been in China. Then hop over to India, it is crazy there. Nothing like South America or any of the Americas. I still think I should see NYC before I die though.

 

[ophiuchus]

i liked nyc when i went there. great art scene. granted i wasn't trying to survive or make a living there, i was on vacation, so i can only imagine from the flip side... one of the most expensive places to live in the US