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Schizophrenics see through hollow-mask illusion

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Interesting text I stumbled on.

"Telling the front from the back of a mask can be more difficult than it seems. Thanks to an effect called the hollow-mask illusion, the brain can have trouble deciding if the image is convex or concave.

But, it seems, not everyone struggles to correctly determine the mask's orientation. New research shows that people with schizophrenia are immune to the effect – a finding that means the illusion could provide a diagnostic test for the condition.

In the study, volunteers were monitored in an fMRI (functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging) scanner as they looked at photos. Some of these were normal pictures of faces, but others had been inverted as in the hollow-mask illusion. All the participants with schizophrenia could distinguish between the two types of photos, whereas control volunteers without the condition were fooled 99 per cent of the time.

People with schizophrenia, which affects about 1 per cent of the population, are already known to be immune to certain visual illusions. Immunity to the hollow-mask illusion, says Danai Dima, of Hannover School of Medicine in Germany, suggests that the "bottom-up" process of collecting incoming visual information from the eyes, and the "top-down" process of interpreting this information is different in people with schizophrenia.

"The term 'schizophrenia' was coined almost a century ago to mean the splitting of different mental domains, but the idea has now shifted more towards connectivity between brain areas," says Dima.

The prevailing theory is that perception comprises three main components: sensory input (bottom-up); the internal production of concepts (top-down); and a control component, which covers interaction between the two first components. "Our study provides further evidence of 'dysconnectivity' between these components in the brains of people with schizophrenia."

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16911-schizophrenics-see-through-hollowmask-illusion.html

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...=4200739&md5=9c5bcd87cab654398552abde1943afec
 
Interesting!

I don't really understand their theory of perception, but still interesting.
 
interesting....

..and slightly worrying :yawinkle:
 
People who have taken psychedelics can also see wich way round the mask is .
 
I can't tell other than that the reverse mask looks like its butt ugly CG, hey I guess that means I'm not schizo! (I couldn't tell at all with the woman)

People who have taken psychedelics can also see wich way round the mask is .

Clearly I need to test this by taking more psychedelics in the interest of.. science
 
ah i've always wanted one of those masks. i remember seeing one of einstein's.

The prevailing theory is that perception comprises three main components: sensory input (bottom-up); the internal production of concepts (top-down); and a control component, which covers interaction between the two first components.

that last one, the control component; it's the same good ol' ego, isn't it?
 
Rationally speaking, if the incoming information is distorted or overloaded, it is still up to the being itself whether one makes a big deal out of it, or not paying attention to it and putting it down. Often a obsessive-compulsive disorder makes this hard to do, hence the onset of doubt and fear about perception.
 
hehehe pretty cool :)
 
um yeah this is odd cos ive allways had this idea that the next dimension would be being able to see the rise and fall of spikes if the were pointed directly at you.

e.g if the was a wall of spikes and you couldn't see the sides of them you would still be able to tell which ones closer to you

so yeah schizophrenics are just in different dimensions all the time :shock: <don't take this seriously
 
People who have taken psychedelics can also see wich way round the mask is .
hmm, didn't know that one.
i only see the spinning dancer illusion spin in one direction too
yes, me too. I swear, she only rotates in one direction and THEY are trying to trick us !
 
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i only see the spinning dancer illusion spin in one direction too
yes, me too. I swear, she only rotates in one direction and THEY are trying to trick us !

I can move it the way i want it. :D

I can't, but i had opened the file in flash(software) and in fact the dancer was only spinning in one direction, so it did turns clockwise.
 
conspiracy :lol:
 
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