Research chemical stigma

[chimp_masta_flex]

Ive been hunting for RC vendors for a fair while now, which lead me here. I noticed that half of the forum seem to really hate RC's and anything to do with them, i was just wondering why...

 

[kron420]

there hasn't been any real human testing of long term effects from RCs, while on the flipside hippies and what have you have been eating lsd/mushrooms/mescaline for thousands of years with no real negative side effects with proper use.

 

[IJesusChrist]

Alot of people on here are from us, or have to deal with US borders and RC = criminal charges for some.
Other find that RC places can be scams, not legit, or just very sketchy (sending fake chemicals)
I would be wary. Most RC chems have all been tested and aren't on the streets for a reason: dangerous, weird trips, or failures.
(BE WARY !)

 

[JustinNed]

A lot of people just find random chemicals that will inebriate someone and sell them to make a quick buck, regardless of whom they harm.

 

[chimp_masta_flex]

do you not perhaps think its a little naive to apply that to research chemicals and not to street drugs, if your buying from a vendor they are more likely to sell what they are advertising but so many RC's have been sold as acid which has lead to big problems, and by following a few simple precautions the dangers can be minimized especially because you know the exact dosage and substance?

Not that i dont see your point about the lack of sufficient 'testing' on humans as has been seen with more common drugs i just think that perhaps the dangers aren't within the chemicals, they're within the users.

 

[st.bot.32]

the only way to ever know exactly what you got is to send a sample off to a lab. and you are right about rcs being sold as acid. many experienced trippers don't know how to tell the difference. even vendors may not be able to tell

i think i've run into rc "blotter" a couple times in the past year. more than legit acid actually. it's becoming a real problem

 

[Icelus]

Is it even possible to put RC's on a blotter? I'm not an expert in RC's, but as far as i know all of them are less potent then LSD...

 

[spice]

Yes, it is.

DOB is active in the 1-2 mg range, well within the possibility of blotter absorption.

DOM, aka 'STP' is active at 2 mg, too......

DOI is too....


DOC is too.....

etc.

 

[phatass]

RC is a extremely wide term... hundreds of drugs are RC's... then there are the more famous ones like 2C-B, which i personnally quite like then theres dob dipt 5meodipt 2C-t7 etc....

Most of the popular RC's are extremely potent chemicals, and maybe people don't do enough research before doing something like DOB and then have a bad experience cause they weren't expecting to trip for 36 hours, get the gist....

RC's are to be treated with respect IMHO

 

[JustinNed]

I beleive the qualifications of a RC is something that the pharmacological and toxicological properties of this product have not been fully investigated.
And thus, should not be ingested by any means.

 

[st.bot.32]

from personal experience, yes. 5 hour comeup and 30 hours after dropping i was still seeing swirly fractals.. even after sleeping a bit in there. (still a great trip, mind you, certainly not acid). once before earlier in the year, different blotter, chemical taste, 4 hour comeup (but short trip). with the huge acid shortage in the past 5 years, RCs being sold as acid seems to be pretty common now. even seasoned trippers i talk with think that "some acid takes 4 hours to kick in"

im not against RCs.. lsd was an rc too at one point and still is in some ways. it's just very, very wrong to dose people with something other than what they are expecting

 

[Brugmansia]

MPTP bycicle day:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mptp/mp ... try1.shtml

The substance has been found to metabolize in the brain
into a compound that kills midbrain dopaminergic cells whose axons project
to neurons in the basal ganglia. This produces clinical symptoms
essentially identical to those of parkinson's disease. The phenomenon was
first described in 1979 in the case of a 23-year-old graduate student who
had developed parkinsonian-like condition after using a meperidine-like
drug that he synthesized in his own laboratory. ... Unfortunatly, the
student was not the only one who used the adulterated substance, and
several dozen young users of this synthetic heroin [sic] have now
succumbed to a similar fate- a lifetime (which could be quite short) of
tremors, partial or complete paralysis, and abnormal posture."

 

[chimp_masta_flex]

indeed, but it is easy enough to find a scare story to do with any drug, safe or otherwise.

Of course tragic circumstances like this will be reported, but that is by no means a statistical analysis of the safety of the drug.