P. Cubensis + Piracetam (nootropics) combination inquires

[Fascination88]

hey all, I have a very motivated question. Recently 3.5-3.8g of P cubensis were ingested by four people each, all of which had ingested around 2.4g of Piracetam and 1.2g of Lecithin containing significant amounts of Choline. My use of Piracetam made me not really think twice about it's presence in my system....needless to say, some people got nauseous, but for the most part everyone enjoyed the experience, especially the prolonged and intensified peak. I've read that Piracetam has been shown to facilitate the production of more neurotransmitters, and I've also read that Psilocybin works similarily with a specific neurotransmitter. So after the experience, the big question was, did the Piracetam act kind of as an catalyst to the whole experience, almost slighty analagous to an MAOI? If anyone out there know's or can think of any explinations or ideas, they'd be much appreciated. it's a pretty damn fascinating thought that's really intriguing my curiosity, so anything even just hypothesis' would be appreciated! thanks all!

 

[Meduzz]

http://www.erowid.org/smarts/piracetam/ ... .shtml#4.2

 

[GOD]

"did the Piracetam act kind of as an catalyst to the whole experience,"

Yes .

"almost slighty analagous to an MAOI?"

MOAIs do not potentiate mushrooms .

Again , doing , dangerous , unpredictable , random experiments with you brain chemistry is not a sensible idea . The piracetam just makes your blood more fluid , cary more oxygen , and makes the periferal blood vessels wider and softer / subteler so that the oxygen gets spread better through your brain folds ( villeicht heist das gehirn lappen ????? ) . It definately makes you clearer in the head , maybe more intelligent and you feel 20 years younger ...... and sex is better . I started taking piracetam + ginko + ginseng + lecithin in about 1984 . I had tryed other nootropics but the effects were not as obvious and predictable as that mixture . Those few things seem to fit together good and compliment each other , but taking more doesnt help . I asked a doctor 2 months ago if it could be seen as robbing peter to pay paul ( = robbing resources now that you need for later ) and he said its not . Taking those things with cannabis is not a good idea because they work in exactly the oposit way = you will probably feel thicker not more intelligent .

 

[Alnitak]

The piracetam (...) definately makes you clearer in the head , maybe more intelligent and you feel 20 years younger ...... and sex is better . I started taking piracetam + ginko + ginseng + lecithin in about 1984 . I had tryed other nootropics but the effects were not as obvious and predictable as that mixture . Those few things seem to fit together good and compliment each other .

You just made me want to give Piracetam a try! I'll look into it futher

So, I guess you've given up on pot, since you said piracetam + pot make you feel "thicker"...?

 

[GOD]

I stoped taking Piracetam years ago because of the , in my opinion , negative effects when mixed with cannabis , and the price . I think that if someone wants to freshen up their brain , make themselves more intelligent , do something for their memory and general health........ after giving up drugs , that this is a way to go . But its not a thing to mix with drugs , i got into a negative circle of cleaning my brain , then smoking grass wich then works better , then taking more Piracetam and on and on untill my brain was flooded with drugs and i wasnt getting high . = my brain was doing 300 miles an hour just to stay still . Its also not a thing to do long term . Its like fasting , you do it once or twice a year . I also think that its a thing to try SLOWLY = dont just make a list of things that could do you "good" and shovel them down your neck . You have to test one at a time and leave a space between tests for your body to get back to "normal" . Thats why i gave the list i gave , i think that those things fit good together . But in controled doses , its not that more is better . There are also lots of other chemicals that are said to have a tonic effect like Ritalin , Modanafil ( maybe i spelt that wrong ) Vasopresin and others . I was never able to mix chemicals like that together and feel comfortable . Sometimes , when mixed together they made me feel strung out like i`d had an uncomfortable dose of kiddy speed . Something like you felt at christmas after eating kilos of chocolate when you were a kid , just before you puked up and shit your trousers . Strangely uncomfortable like a spare prick in a brothel . Or a flood light that wishes it could be turned off .

Another one that i would recomend is L-Tryptophan . But not before or with drugs , especialy MDMA / extacy . On the bad side , as far as i know its extracted from the brains of murdered animals .

I dont take any drugs at all .

I have two very old old "books" on the subject . I`m sure that today there are better ones , but i dont know them .

"Smart Drugs and Nutrients" ISBN:- 0-9627418-9-2
"Smart Drugs 2 - The Next Generation" ISBN:- 0-9627418-7-6

Please be very carefull and dont fuck yourself up , you are your brain and doing experiments with it can result in FRYING IT

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