OHHH NOOO... I cant do psychedelics anymore?!?!

[trick]

Man.. its been a rough few weeks... My mom is in the hospital with what is believed to be schizophrenia.

What dose this mean for me? Ive read everywhere that mushrooms and LSD ect. can wake up a mental illness in you if it runs in your family [well something along those lines, you know what I mean].

So should I not do psychedelics becasue im possibly at risk?!


Please, info would be greatly app. because this is the love of my life that were talking about right now. :?

 

[Guest]

love of your life ? aren't you 13 ?

edit: on topic...if i were you, i'd stay out of it. there are countless formulas (for pressing flowers - i really had to say that, a teenage urge) for reaching different states of counciousness. meditation, sensorial deprivation, etc, etc. try those. i have done it and i prefer them to psychedelics. i don't do any drugs, and psychonauting is very important to me. two things can co-exist.
now, if you are a psychedelic user, that's a different story. those two concepts keep getting confused in this forum.

 

[scamie]

Hi,
There is a good change that you are vulnerable for a mental illness. But that's not 100%.
There is more risk than somebody who has no schizofrenia or deprssions etc in the familly. And psychedelics can trigger a mental disease. But also can stress or life events.
But one is never sure. I think a psychosis is always a possibility for everybody to happen.... one can never know for sure... that's the problem. if you decide never to take psychedelics to be sure.... damn ... hard decision... Maybe you will never get schizofrenia... on the other hand... is risking a psychosis worth it. For it is something wich can damage your brain very badly!!!!! I work in a psychiatric hospital.....
rgrds

 

[trick]

Close but no im 15.. 16 soon.

And I do still meditate regularly and have for a few years, it plays a quite an important role in my life as im sure it dose for you. But the fact that I cant explore my mind with psychedelics is deffinatly big for me. I think that I will settle with a large reduction to my use regaurding scamie's post.

That way it would cut down the risk factor [altho it IS still there]..


The only mentlal illness ive ever experiecned [if it was even a mental illness] was a short period of depression last year, but now that I look back on all that was going on, it dosent supprise me.

 

[Guest]

Man, that's a tough one.
I hope your mom will be ok.
As for psychedelics, maybe you should avoid them till you're at least 21,
although I don't have the scientiffic link for it, it seems that you run a large risk of getting a psychosis while still in your adolescent years.

I hope everything turns out alright

:heart: & :idea:

 

[C21H28N2O4]

Well, I'd stay away from OHHHNOOO if I were you. Those nitrates can have bad side effects, empirically speaking (tee hee hee.)

 

[????????]

I'm sorry to hear about your mom. As scamie said the "risk" is always there; you're faced with knowing that maybe you have a greater than average risk. But in the end I don't think this will deter you anyway... Am I wrong?

I want to say that I think you're one of the youngest, if not the youngest, guys on the forums and you have quite the experience regarding trips. You have to consider that when going through adolescence you're going through physical and mental changes and you're growing and developing...

How does it sound to make a pause with psychedelics? Maybe wait until you're 20. You can then reconsider (then, not now) what you're going to do with the whole issue. You have plenty of years ahead. And as daytripper pointed, there are many many methods of experiencing altered states of consciousness...

 

[buffachino]

Philippe I agree wholeheartedly.

Give his words twice the impact Trick, to suffice for me having to say the same thing again.

I would give psychedelics a little break, and in the mean time, work on entering those states without their aid. Then if, or when, you do recommence your explorations with them, you will be yet even more prepared to delve into the limits of the unknown.

Peace mate, and give our love to your mother.

 

[user_1919]

Sorry to hear about your mom!

I totally agree with the above two posts. I would say wait until your around 20-25 to start thinking about using them again. Right now, I would just focus on school; something most kids just let pass right by them. Educate yourself so you can go to University, and eventually start working with psychedelics. Even if you can't use them, you can study them. At least this is the path that I will be taking.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Guest]

and have patience. we all know how is having 16 years old and the urge to try everything. be calm because things will come at their own time.
use your head, because if you don't, psychedelics won't ever mean anything to you. school is perhaps the most important gateway to your adult life, and therefore should be your top priority. there's enough time for you to do all the drugs you want.

 

[Dantediv86]

besides to be a psychonaut you don't even need to be altered :wink:

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Sorry, I don't have time right now to read the other responses, but personally I see no problem with your use of psychedelics, as long as you are mentally healthy yourself, sleep well, don't skip classes etc. I don't want to talk about age in numbers, only in terms of maturity: if your use of psychedelics is done in a mature and respectful way, taking them only once a month or less, it's unlikely they'll get you into trouble.

 

[phalaris]

/offtopic space

Well, I'd stay away from OHHHNOOO if I were you. Those nitrates can have bad side effects, empirically speaking (tee hee hee.)

..yup, espescially when moist and acidic..

/end offtopic space

 

[Forkbender]

Smoke DMT!

 

[Dantediv86]

niiiiiice one

 

[Rymmen]

To OP:

I'd agree to let off them until you're older, if you can do that. I'm 17, soon to be 18, and looking back, I wish I had discovered the same things that I have but later in life. It's hard to have the psychedelic experience and also have motivation to advance your education, I find. Mind you, I'm still pulling mostly a B average with half AP classes, but I wish I could place more importance on it than I do, but it seems ignorant to me to do so now. But, so it goes...

 

[Pariah]

I'm sure your all familiar with trawling through erowid, but heres a link to a relevant page:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_health1.shtml

...alot of it is just opinion, but worth reading, its based on referenced material that you could get (at least the abstract) using a search on google or google scholar.

Anyway, I empathise with your situation, I can imagine how hard it is to balance the possible risk and the benefits of psychedelics.

One thing I would imagine possible in future for you (although its purely speculation) would be the anxiety present knowing you may be at risk from psychosis, producing a bad trip, which could induce that very state...

Prehaps thats just my imagination running away me...

 

[gayedohi]

remember psychodelics are a tool, a way but not the only way, meditation, drumming, i have traveled without having to use anything at all just will intent and shutting off the internal dialogue. you might try these methods and just use the psychodelics as an occasional boost. peace and joy be yours and blessings to your mom.

 

[Adder]

I would never recommend that a 15 year old take psychedelics but I do commend you for asking people's advice and opinions. That shows a maturity beyond your years.

Your body and brain are going through a lot of changes in chemistry and structure at the moment. It's maybe not a good idea to mess with those by introducing a bunch of foreign chemicals. Now with the added risk of a hereditary psychosis to boot I'd side with the people saying to give drugs a break for a while.

Your reaction to the news is another indicator you should give it a rest. Dismay that you may not be able to take psychedelics could be interpreted by some that you may have a drug problem. Remember drugs are a tool for meditation and relaxation. If you have trouble giving them up then they have taken a lot more control over your life than they should. You should control the drugs not let them control you.

That's my $1.50 worth. (Inflation is hitting everywhere) :lol:

 

[Guest]

Remember drugs are a tool for meditation and relaxation.

Well then you clearly haven't had my kind of trips then :mrgreen:


When I was 15 (so 9 years ago) I wanted to try everything, looking back experimenting has brought me a lot of wisdom (wich I could only interpret later), but I'm done experimenting, it's fun but it's not necisarry for your growth (ofcourse experimenting is good, but not necissarily with drugs)
I think (<-!) that if you can put it aside long enough, you can't go wrong, because it takes courage to count on the fact that it can be a wonderful experience, but it is not advisable at this point to do it and act upon it with responsibility and Love.
Although there might be nothing wrong deciding to do it anyway, because you don't know if this psychosis your mom has was inflicted by things she experienced during her life or something in her genes, but there's always the chance.

What I have learned from life is that if you approach every "obstacle" in your life with Love instead of fear, then nothing can go wrong.
And I still have fearful moments, wich usually don't turn out the way I want them too. Nobody said it was easy, but man, what a ride

I hope everything will turn out ok for you, wich ever way you choose.

:heart: & :idea: