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So today, I asked my mom if she could order this book called "Mushroom Wisdom". She said no, she doesn't want to support this. "this", i'm not to sure what she means. Maybe my so called "drug" problem, which is and never will be a problem, only an intergrated part of my life. I recently told her I smoke pot, and she was cool with that. I sorta touched on the Mushrooms, LSD, and Ayahuasca topics that night, but apparently she didn't understand that I was telling her i've experiemented with them. So today she is saying like " All you want to do is take drugs and get high off them, this is what you live for". She DOESN'T understand what so ever. No one really does, other than most people like you and I. She doesnt understand that these or tools, or guide into your mind, intended for learning and applying that learning into your so called 'normal' reality. I don't know, I just needed to let this out, see what you guys think. I don't know what to tell her anymore. She truly believes that Mushrooms are bad. I wish this world would understand, that these are magical substances, that DO NOT casue any harm when used properly.

PEACE
 
You could softly nudge her to try and persuade her, but in the end it might be possible that she'll never be able to accept it. In that case, don't tell her about it.
 
Get a diploma, and move out of the house.

Do not spend your energy educating your parents about your interest in psychedelics etc when they will not listen and when you are dependent financial or otherwise on them. So, yes, it is all about principles and stuff, but in the end they have the control over you to make your stay at the house quite miserable.

So, get a diploma and do what you like.
 
My parents are very understanding. My dad has experience with these type of substances, so knows what's up. But my mom does not. I just got into a big discussion with her about mushrooms, and I think she MAY have started to understand SLIGHTLY. She said to look at both sides. She wants me to read a book talking about 'why not to take mushrooms'. Does anyone know of such a book. I know that any sane person who has used mushroom, would never write such a book, but if there is one out there, I would like the see the information that i'm missing out on, and she apparently knows. (she knows NOTHING about mushrooms and is making pure assumptions) So I dont think such a book exisits, but if someone knows of one, please let me know, thanks

PEACE
 
It's offical, no such book exists. I've searched high and low, NOTHING. This seems to hint at something.....MAYBE, mushrooms are not bad. My first thoughts about them were right. All the research turned up blank when looking for negative effects the mushroom produces.(I knew they were never bad in the first place, my mom just wanted me to look at both sides, and boy did I ever)

PEACE
 
LOL where? Anything that I find is only a website, and I can only use common sence to say thats wrong (what they are saying) because I have direct experience with the substance....


PEACE
 
I've decided to wait until I'm independent to share with my parents. I find it hard to believe that they don't know already, but that's just me.
 
I understand the shit you're going through completely as I told my parents about my drug use a couple of month's ago. It took some time, but now they understand, but my sister is now making problems out of it even though she also experimented with mushrooms :axe: . I think the most important thing is you were honest about how you think about these substances and now it's on her to decide what she does with it.
 
There's no us and them here. Just explain her why you take them and what you've learned. She had a child with a person using these substances, so she can't be all bad.
 
Thanks for all your thoughts. I have to point out, my mom isn't like your 'normal' mom. She is very understand. She knows that Ayahuasca can be used for VERY spritual purposes to to get to very spritual places in your own mind. She knows all this stuff, proababaly casue when her and my dad were together, my dad talked about it a lot. So shes not your 'normal' blinded person, but at the same time she is. She just keeps telling me, I should try to get to these places without using any type of substance. I tell her that is my goal in the end, to achieve some type of wisdom so the substances are no longer needed. She still doesn't agree. I must be missing something, I don't know. I'm going to keep doing what I want to do, because i'm a human being with rights, just like everyone else.

PEACE
 
wow your story sounds all too familiar to me! i used to have similar experiences with my parents. except in my case it's my dad.

when i was in high school(and even now that i'm out) he used to agree 100% with me on the topics of spiritual use of LSD, cannabis, mushrooms, DMT...it's just that whenever he found my stash he would throw it out. not very understanding wouldn't you say?!

well, i talked to him about it and after meditating on it long and hard i came to a conclusion.

MOST parents, even the accepting ones, would rather you not use any substances at all over using them only occasionally.

The reasoning I arrived at is this...the typically parent, even the somewhat convinced one, still has residual doubts about the effects of the drugs on your consciousness and they fear that, for a lack of a better term, "lose their baby". they're afraid it's going to change you and you'll never be the same. ridicuous, yes. but the more i think about it what other reason would a parent have to be against drugs in general? it's not so much they fear the drug itself, but losing your personality of what you once were after you took the drug...

...which is totally bullshit brainwash btw.
 
Your theory sounds ok to me poisoninthestain, except that I'd explain it as a primal fear that their baby will never be the same and that they'll lose you. And I'd say that fear hasn't got to do so much with the drugs as with the general xenophobia alot of people have.
 
Indeed, unless you're very close to your mother, that is, you see your mother as your best friend, you should keep a low profile till you're indepedent financially. I've never spoken to my parents about psychoactives even if I know that they're understanding. By the way, if you do want to talk to her about shrooms, you can tell her that you've found nothing about the book that she told you, however you can advise her to read "Shroom" by Andy Letcher, I think she'll enjoy this one.


Cheers ;-)
 
my mom was all for mushrooms till she tried them. shes totally against weed till shes had a drink, then she smokes the whole joint. thats why i dont offer any more. you cant win
 
i have the same with my parents ...

but i have already gotten to the state that they can't deny that my argumentation about drugs is better and more reasonable than theirs ... :P

but still they say also they can't change their perspective on this topic and i understand why too ...

subliminal spreading of false information seems to work wonder ... similar to brainwashing ... but it could also be just their adjustement over time (so to say that the perspective they got from others was taken over and not well reflected and sort of made thick in their minds and therefore difficult to change their "mind")

PEACE.


simply explain them what you know but don't let them feel like "they don't know" ... they know ... but they don't know " "the" "truth" ".


PEACE. :weedman:
 
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