My idea for a homemade vape

[Noeone]

1. This uses lab equipment because I'm starting my own chemistry lab (not the kind that makes food for your mind, the kind that test microscale *pyrotechnic compounds, the kind that gives you a head start on your phd).

2. This isn't a refined design but more of an initial planning design. Haven't tested the design either (still trying to find a cheaper source of test tubes without having to buy them by the case).

3. You can get rid of the heating bath, and water filtration to save money and the stove works fine for a heat source.

4. I'm working on actually building one from things that are readily availible in most places. It will probably replace the beaker with a pyrex measuring cup, the flask with a mason jar, and I'm not sure on the test tube (they are sold on ebay so it's not that big of an inconvenience).

5. With a decent lab hotplate you should be able to achive temperatures of room temp to 550*C on the surface of the hotplate. That should be more then enough to vaporize anything you can throw at it. But if you are going to do anything that needs to get real hot might be worth it to invest in some brand name test tubes.

 

[GOD]

Its good that you are thinking about things like that . But....look at the bubble pipe and you will give your idea up . Your idea is to bulky , to unwealdy , to expensive , to much glass , there is to much volume where the vapour would condense on and "filtering" cannabis smoke or vapour through water is absolutly senseless as it "filters" the active part out .

 

[Noeone]

Its good that you are thinking about things like that . But....look at the bubble pipe and you will give your idea up . Your idea is to bulky , to unwealdy , to expensive , to much glass , there is to much volume where the vapour would condense on and "filtering" cannabis smoke or vapour through water is absolutly senseless as it "filters" the active part out .

Actually for me the setup is free because it's all shit I need anyway. Also I haven't made any refined designs because I came up with the idea today so I haven't gotten any real world test time in.

Edit: One thing, why is almost all glass bad?

Thanks for the good points on the water and condensation, however I refuse to give up. I don't care if I have to put this thing in a broken refrigerator and keep the whole setup at temperature. After all it's not about saving money, or being compact and convenient it's just DIY drug geek (or at least it is for me, whatever gets the mind flowing is a good thing in my eyes).

Here is the basic plan for the cheap model.

 

[GOD]

Thanks that you thought about what i said . Cooling vapoure just makes it condense quicker and cold and or wet vapoure or smoke makes you cough . If you find information about the bubble pipe , wich costs about 10 Euros , you will see that it is about as refined an idea that is possible . I started working on vaporisers in 1972 , when they were called distillers or electric pipes so i have thought about most of the posssibilitys .

 

[Noeone]

Ok I found a bubble pipe
http://www.rollies.com/Pipes/View.php?S ... =HT-GL125c

Looks interesting, defiantly a good purchased solution.

One more thing, can you think of any reason a test tube and halogen bulb placed in an old thermos controlled by a pic micro controller wouldn't work, because I could probably rig something like that out of this old cooler I've been looking to do something with (was going to a portable power supply but this sound more interesting).

 

[GOD]

Good to see that you dont give up and that you keep thinking . I looked at the net link you gave and its not the bubble pipe i mean , it looks like a very bad copy . You can order them at any headshop but look here to see what i mean :-

http://hanfburg.de/store/product_info.p ... cts_id=555

The stem is movable , when you warm the product that you want to vaporise the stem is pulled out as far as possible . When you want to suck you push the stem into the bubble as is shown in the picture so that you can suck the vapoure , and air in through the plastic seal .

Light destroys THC so the halogen lamp is not a good idea . The thing about glass and thermos cans is that they are very breakable , wich is especialy dangerous for stoned people . I dont know what a pic micro controller is , but if you give me a net link i will look at it and tell you what i think . Another possible controlable heat source to think about is an adjustable digital soldering iron station attached to a heating coil instead of a soldering iron . They have a digital thermometer in them so you could control the heat exactly . Also maybe you could think about pre heating the bubble pipe wich is made of "unbreakable" glass , to work against condensation , and think about getting a good seal on it and shortening the path of the vapoure to the lungs . I got my local glass man to make me a new shorter stem , with a flat end so i could put a ruber seal on it to make it air tight .

 

[Noeone]

Light destroys THC so the halogen lamp is not a good idea .

Good point I'll have to toss in a disk of aluminum, think I have some scrap bar stock that should work.

The thing about glass and thermos cans is that they are very breakable

I might try to find someway to mount it to some kind of stand so it can't be knocked over. I have some three finger clamps that should be useful. Also decent pyrex test tubes take a good bit of abuse (for good reason too).

I dont know what a pic micro controller is , but if you give me a net link i will look at it and tell you what i think .

It's a brand of programmable microcontroller that is popular in many applications including amateur robotics (I dabble). Basically it would be programmed to maintain a steady temperature by regulating the amount of power being sent to the bulb. It's based off a design for a cheap incubator.

Another possible controlable heat source to think about is an adjustable digital soldering iron station attached to a heating coil instead of a soldering iron .

Thats a good idea I'll have to try that with mine.

Also maybe you could think about pre heating the bubble pipe wich is made of "unbreakable" glass , to work against condensation , and think about getting a good seal on it and shortening the path of the vapoure to the lungs .

I'm thinking about using a microscale erlenmeyer flask instead of a test tube (or something like a 10 x 75 test tube although if you almost submerge the glass in a heating bath, when the temperature stabilizes most of the test tube will be at vapeing temp so the only risk is in the tube and most vapes have that problem)

Thanks for all input GOD

 

[GOD]

I hope that you know that the way you are thinking of doing it , heating the whole load of substance to the vaporising temperature at once means that you are only going to get one suck for each load . Using a to one point heat source is better . Then you can have more sucks . And have you thought about having an intake and an outlet possibility so you are getting air into your container when you suck similar to a water pipe , with one at the top and the air inlet at the bottom or you will not be able to suck at all . Then maybe think about the time it will take to dissasemble and load your vaporiser .

 

[Noeone]

I hope that you know that the way you are thinking of doing it , heating the whole load of substance to the vaporising temperature at once means that you are only going to get one suck for each load . Using a to one point heat source is better . Then you can have more sucks . And have you thought about having an intake and an outlet possibility so you are getting air into your container when you suck similar to a water pipe , with one at the top and the air inlet at the bottom or you will not be able to suck at all . Then maybe think about the time it will take to dissasemble and load your vaporiser .

Good point I think I'll just heat the air and put the weed on a screen above the glass tube intake.

 

[GOD]

The last picture looks OK to me , here are my thoughts . I would say forget the screen . Just put the grass on the bottom of the test tube and warm it with a candle or a cigaret lighter very carefully , thinking about the temperature you need = about 200c . Remember how hot flames are , so dont hold them directly on the test tube and keep the test tube moving across and above the flame . Its best to powder the grass first , the bigger the surface area of it is the more efficient the extraction is . And use the long left hand tube to suck through and the short right hand one for your air intake . Try to make the whole thing as small as possible , to warm the whole thing a bit first to stop the vapoure condensing on cold glass and to make the route to your lungs as short as possible . From each load you should get three sucks and you will soon be able to taste when the THC is all gone . Its best to use the amount of grass that sticks to your finger when you dab it in the grass , wich is about 1 mm thick and 10 mm wide , but its a matter of practice , each pipe is different .