Mushroom Ban In Holland

[DVS]

Hey peeps just a quick question, although theres been no official announcements would the shroom ban also ban spores or only growkits? could do with knowing asap so i can be prepared for this aweful abdomination that is taking place. Thanks

 

[Etherbunny]

I havent read the law but I'd say it would not. I'm basing this on the fact that the USA does not ban the posession of spores, just anything beyond that.

 

[mysticwarrior]

I have heard or read somewhere that spores of psylocybin mushrooms contains also psylocybin. The ban that's awaiting above our heads over here in Holland forbids us the possesion or use of psylocybin. I am not really sure, but i guess that growkits or spores will because of this, illegal to. I hope i am wrong and that someone can correct me. But this is what i know....

 

[Forkbender]

mycelium does contain psilocybin, spores don't.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

The ban that's awaiting above our heads over here in Holland forbids us the possesion or use of psylocybin.

That's already forbidden. The upcoming ban does not concern any substance, but a detailed list of species, some not even containing any psilocybin (namely the Amanita muscaria and Amanita pantherina). They're most likely going to include all stages of the cycle, i.e. spore, mycelium and mushroom.

 

[Etherbunny]

I don't see why spores would be illegal, they are still benificial to research.

that's what I use mine 4

 

[JJJ]

The upcoming ban does not concern any substance, but a detailed list of species, some not even containing any psilocybin (namely the Amanita muscaria and Amanita pantherina). They're most likely going to include all stages of the cycle, i.e. spore, mycelium and mushroom.

Hmm, in the official 'law modification proposition' our minister wrote, he literally speaks of 'mushrooms containing psilocin/psilocybin', followed by a (longgg ) list of species. In that case, only real mushrooms would be banned. Spores, mycelium and even sclerotia (truffles) would still be 100% legal. But I am not sure if the real paddo law is gonna be exactly like this proposition... It would be cool, maybe they made the stupid mistake of thinking it's only about mushrooms and forgetting about truffles . In that case smartshops should say nothing, wait for a few months and then just put the truffles back in their shops 8) .

 

[Brugmansia]

It's possible to manufacture chocolade bars with psilo in it as well. Would be an easy way to conceal the substance in large quantities for storage or trade.

Just crush dried shrooms to dust and process it in some food. Hence the police, 'Hey Sir, search through my house if you want, and oh, can I offer you some coffee? I got a fridge full with apple pie, too'.

 

[mysticwarrior]

It's possible to manufacture chocolade bars with psilo in it as well. Would be an easy way to conceal the substance in large quantities for storage or trade.

Just crush dried shrooms to dust and process it in some food. Hence the police, 'Hey Sir, search through my house if you want, and oh, can I offer you some coffee? I got a fridge full with apple pie, too'.

Then they will never forget it! Maybe that they afterwards are thankfully Or they come back to get all you apple pie

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

It would be cool, maybe they made the stupid mistake of thinking it's only about mushrooms and forgetting about truffles . In that case smartshops should say nothing, wait for a few months and then just put the truffles back in their shops 8) .

Currently truffels are commonly considered "paddo's", and the word "paddo" is used in the document. And when a species is illegal (the long list, including Psilocybe mexicana), all parts of its life cycle must be illegal too.

 

[JJJ]

Currently truffels are commonly considered "paddo's", and the word "paddo" is used in the document. And when a species is illegal (the long list, including Psilocybe mexicana), all parts of its life cycle must be illegal too.

The word 'paddo' has no meaning in a juridic sense . It's just a street name. And the document speaks about 'mushrooms containing psilocin/psilocybin: (...list...)'. I really think that this just literally means that certain mushrooms are forbidden, but nothing more than that. Spores or mycelium are not 'mushrooms containing psilocin/psilocybin': they're not mushrooms. If a law would forbid 'fruits containing vitamin C', followed by a list of fruits including oranges and apples, then such a law would not cover apple and orange trees or their seeds, I think. I am no lawayer, but I think those should be stated explicitly.

But yeah, we're clinging onto straws, if politicians want a ban, there will be a ban sooner or later. After all it's been banned in other countries as well ...

 

[Forkbender]

But we can influence the debate. Politicians are afraid of losing their jobs. So they will listen to people in some way or another.