Mental problems, what did it help you?

[BridgeUnder]

I'm specifically looking at people who've had or are having mental problems and who've found a way to enlightenment thru psychedelics.

What "stuff" got you thru it?
I'm having some true-life issues myself to say the least (I'm very shy and pretty reclusive).

 

[shroomlover]

hey i just got some mushrooms from my dealer, they were pretty much all stems, but there were a few caps, im tripping right now pretty bad, it is the first time i have tried them. there out of season now anyways just wanted to find fun stuff to do and stuff to do when tripping. my first time tripping and my first time posting so help

 

[shroomlover]

hey i am tripping right now and i think i am going to stop with all the drugs, this is just what i needed, thank you shrooms

 

[Faust]

It doesn't work like that. They're not a magical cure for anything. They can help in a certain way with problems though.

 

[Rutger]

I agree with Faust here. Its not some magical healing that will make you better just like that. Just like with normal treatment you will be confronted with aspects of you and your current life and past that you might not like. This is the same with normal therapy or other treatments. Once you get past that you can realise and change things, the means is not important. You can do it with the help of Psychedelics, group therapy medication or a combination of all these.

Of course this is very gereral information, since none of us know you welll enough as a person.

 

[Guest]

I think what shroomlover is trying to say is that he had some good moments of thought on mushrooms and therefore decided he was going to quit all other stuff or all stuff...

 

[WaseFraKa]

I bet a lot of people dealing with psychedelics in one trip or another get that thought of stoping all drugs...I think it's dose and frequency related
In my experience (I thought that several times heh), moderation is key, and after some time you can have a beautiful experience again (min. 2 weeks, better 1 month)
yesterday I had a great experience during a Bartok concert. Incredible music and incredible artists made my day!

I'm having some true-life issues myself to say the least (I'm very shy and pretty reclusive).

I have the same problem, and I think that I'm learning to get past this shyness and I tend to care more for others. I think psychedelics have helped me in those aspects, but I feel I have still some way 'til I can be fully satisfied of my social behaviour. Like it has been said, they will only help you get insights and not make the work for you.

 

[BridgeUnder]

Yeah I'm not expecting it to be THE cure to all mental problems, that would be a bit silly. But as a means to help, along with other aids like psychotherapy and/or medication, I'm hoping at least that it can help a bit.

Although I've heard of at least one guy who got anxiety because of shrooms ...

 

[miow]

ever since dieing on dmt iv wondered what would happen if you gave it to a suicidal person. " you want to die? here smoke this" . i figure they wold either find some new meaning for life or go completely mad.

 

[amoak]

ever since dieing on dmt iv wondered what would happen if you gave it to a suicidal person. " you want to die? here smoke this" . i figure they wold either find some new meaning for life or go completely mad.

tests made in persons wih schizophrenia show that they are able to smoke or injest DMT or any kind of psychedelic ,
Abouta suicidal he never will tell you that he want die so isn't easy to know about it , but i think it can help ,not DMT but ayahuasca iboga or mescaline can do it .

 

[amoak]

Although I've heard of at least one guy who got anxiety because of shrooms ...

Anxiety because shrooms ?????
Maybe during the trip , no after the trip , don´t work like that only if you get traumatised with the experience , and even during the trip is strange , psychedelics make me feel good and safe and in peace with myself , i can relax 1000 times better during a trip than in ordinary life.
Shrooms never will makes you feel bad if you know how to use them , even you take several times a week as thousands of people do it , just respect.
And respec isn't take them just a few times a years as same people said , huichol indians when they are young takes peyotes more than 60 times for year and they still respect them ,

 

[Maru]

Although I've heard of at least one guy who got anxiety because of shrooms ...

At least, I can say that shrooms does not help to reduce anxiety.
Nor Salvia... Thoses two 'allies' increase lucidity and self-seeing which may be helpfull in a psychotherapy but they also may increase anxiety for the same reason.
I'm looking forward to be able to test DMT

i can relax 1000 times better during a trip than in ordinary life.

Lucky guy :wink: I'm in the opposite box. My anxiety comes from my mind and if my mind works 1000 times faster...

 

[amoak]

Although I've heard of at least one guy who got anxiety because of shrooms ...

At least, I can say that shrooms does not help to reduce anxiety.
Nor Salvia... Thoses two 'allies' increase lucidity and self-seeing which may be helpfull in a psychotherapy but they also may increase anxiety for the same reason.
I'm looking forward to be able to test DMT

[quote:2nqx0un8] i can relax 1000 times better during a trip than in ordinary life.

Lucky guy :wink: I'm in the opposite box. My anxiety comes from my mind and if my mind works 1000 times faster...[/quote:2nqx0un8]

I don't know how much time do you take psychedelics , but when i start to take psychedelics i reacted as you , always some anxiety and even paranoia some times , i had really strong bad trips with shrooms , but now is totally diferent , i can be relaxed and lie down with my eyes closed ALL the trip , thats why I never say one word when i m triping , I use psychedelics to get profund trance states , i don't like any more to dance or laugh with psychedelics because the effect i have today is complete difrent , any psychedelic substance you take if you nwant know his power YOU HAVE TO LIE DOWN , COSE YOUR EYES AND RELAX
and do not open your eyes , because if do it , you have to wait at leat 20 or 30 minutes to start again the trance state

and only with trance states you be able to see your mind inside ,see vision and be healed ,if you go to a party can be cool as anti-depressive but not to real psychologic problems

 

[Maru]

i had really strong bad trips with shrooms , but now is totally diferent

THANKS Amoak ! This really is encouraging and interresting.
I have a bit of experience with Salvia (more than 50 trips I guess), but I am a beginner with shrooms, only tripped 2 times.
I'm glad to read that anxiety can wear off with time and experience.
What I am looking with psychedelics is also a profund meditative trance and I am not intterested at all in partying with them.

How long did it takes you to get used with shrooms ?

 

[amoak]

Maru wrote :

How long did it takes you to get used with shrooms ?


Hi Maru ,

I start using psychedelics at 8 years ago with LSD and MDMA , and after 1 year I had my first shrooms experience . After some years I was psychotic and very depresed , because i used in very wrong way , i took it like it was just a drug only for dance and have fun in goa partys .
During my psicose i swore never take psychedelics again , but i was so wrong , only this year , after heal myself with ayahuasca I understanded how to use them because they give me much love and peace and mainly they teach you and that is magic .
When you take shrooms or ayahuasca or any magic plant , you need to believe them , if you think they are just drugs they can not help , you need to share your love with them ,

for me shrooms is so pure for my body and mind as water , and this makes the difference,
if i don't afraid to drink water , why i will afraid or distrust shrooms
and please don´t forget to close your eyes , most of people don't do it , thats the reason why they don´t see visions , THEY NEVER APPEARS IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES , you need to open your third eye and any plant will do it for you , you have to work too .

 

[ararat]

YOU HAVE TO LIE DOWN , COSE YOUR EYES AND RELAX

omg. I ALWAYS tell that my friends. even when they smoke salvia they don't close their eyes. I tell them to do that and after 2 seconds they are open again, as if they couldn't keep their eyes closed. it's really tiring, believe me ^^

 

[amoak]

YOU HAVE TO LIE DOWN , COSE YOUR EYES AND RELAX

omg. I ALWAYS tell that my friends. even when they smoke salvia they don't close their eyes. I tell them to do that and after 2 seconds they are open again, as if they couldn't keep their eyes closed. it's really tiring, believe me ^^

Its really tiring ???? so they may have a problem with psychedelics , and Salvia is one of the easyest psychedelics on the market , I really don't understand how can one person become tiring because close the eyes with Salvia ,with me is the contrary i can´t open my eyes and i just don´t want it because if I do it I know that i will lost the trip for shure , at least the visual trip , but i understand at least unexperienced people will only feel the dissociative effects and this makes you laugh .
For laugh i prefer Ketamine :wink:

And how can you be tired with so much color , hot , perfection and beauty ? maybe you not able to have this kinds of experiences

 

[Brewmaster]

I can keep my eyes open and have visions on just about anything; I don't need to close my eyes, I just have to zone out and ignore what I'm seeing. Like when you have a day dream, as I did all through high school, you can be looking at the chalk board or your professor, but if you get bored enough and let your mind wander; you'll start to dream with your eyes open. For me, the best visions come with my eyes wide open in the dark. This is especially true with aya and mesc. To be able to be out in the woods, just looking into total darkness, is awesome.

Of course I sleep with my eyes open 90% of the time, so maybe I'm weird.

 

[ararat]

YOU HAVE TO LIE DOWN , COSE YOUR EYES AND RELAX

omg. I ALWAYS tell that my friends. even when they smoke salvia they don't close their eyes. I tell them to do that and after 2 seconds they are open again, as if they couldn't keep their eyes closed. it's really tiring, believe me ^^

Its really tiring ???? so they may have a problem with psychedelics , and Salvia is one of the easyest psychedelics on the market , I really don't understand how can one person become tiring because close the eyes with Salvia ,with me is the contrary i can´t open my eyes and i just don´t want it because if I do it I know that i will lost the trip for shure , at least the visual trip , but i understand at least unexperienced people will only feel the dissociative effects and this makes you laugh .
For laugh i prefer Ketamine :wink:

And how can you be tired with so much color , hot , perfection and beauty ? maybe you not able to have this kinds of experiences

no, for me it's tiring that they won't follow my advice, not to close the eyes. sry, this was a bit mistakable tripping on salvia is everything else than tiring ^^
and I'm sure that they don't really have probs with psychedelics, ok, one friend was a bit scared when I told him that he just has smoked salvia and he couldn't remember that.

 

[amoak]

I can keep my eyes open and have visions on just about anything; I don't need to close my eyes, I just have to zone out and ignore what I'm seeing. Like when you have a day dream, as I did all through high school, you can be looking at the chalk board or your professor, but if you get bored enough and let your mind wander; you'll start to dream with your eyes open. For me, the best visions come with my eyes wide open in the dark. This is especially true with aya and mesc. To be able to be out in the woods, just looking into total darkness, is awesome.

Of course I sleep with my eyes open 90% of the time, so maybe I'm weird.

But i dont believe that the visions can be perfect with your eyes open because you will see the ordinary reality , and when i m in a visionary state I become immobilized and i never knows about one person with out of body experiences with the eyes opened , you need to be immobilized .
But i m just talking about my experience I never had visions with my eyes open , only geometric patterns , stronger colors , but nothing more than this , I love art not just special effects
we aren't talking about the same kind of visions