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Ive just recently started experimenting with meditation to create a euphoric/trippy state of mind. I have a few tricks that Im using but Im looking for more ideas and input on what Im doing. These are a few of the things Ive done that have had decent effects and why Ive done them:

I heard that listening to a frequency of about 400hz in one ear and 405hz in the other can get your brainwaves to naturally shift toward a frequency associated with trippy/creative thought. The effects that this has on me seem to depend on my state of mind. Most of the time it feels placebo, but on a few ocasions it has made me content to the point that I cant stop smiling for a few minutes. It also has a slight trippy feeling but I atribute that to the fact that all I can hear when I do it is a ~400hz tone.

After a year of very heavy weed smoking I noticed that when I was getting hit with heavy weed withdrawl my mind was starting to react to it somehow. Basicly when I first really noticed the withdrawl feeling I would "flinch" in mental pain for a second and then in a few seconds it wouldnt be so bad. With some practise I was able to repoduce this event when I wasnt in withdrawl. With about 10 minutes of concentration on this I can get to about 1/3 of the feeling of a medium mj high.

Ive found that if Im sober but feeling trippy and I look at something with absolutely no visible detail after about 5 min of meditation/staring my mind will start to create images in that area. Pitch black areas work well for this but so do things like smooth evenly lit/colored walls and screens. If I can focus my eyes farther back than what Im looking at it helps this alot.
 
could you explain what you mean with withdrawl?

christianity and some indian religions are talking about dying in meditation, by withdrawling your attention/concetration to the eyecenter, out of the senses. this hurts, as blockages manifest themselves in pain (don't know how to explain this well in english).
 
MFD a dit:
I heard that listening to a frequency of about 400hz in one ear and 405hz in the other can get your brainwaves to naturally shift toward a frequency associated with trippy/creative thought. The effects that this has on me seem to depend on my state of mind. Most of the time it feels placebo, but on a few ocasions it has made me content to the point that I cant stop smiling for a few minutes. It also has a slight trippy feeling but I atribute that to the fact that all I can hear when I do it is a ~400hz tone.

The idea behind this is that when two different tones with almost the same frequency are played in the ears (one frequency to each ear) they "beat" to form new frequencies based on the differentiation of the original frequencies. This can only be done with original frequencies that are low enough (below 1500hz).

When used alone or together with visual stimulus, they can be applied to manipulate the main frequency of the so called "brainwaves" according to a phenomena called entrainment.

Wikipedia has good articles of the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwave_synchronization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

There are also machines specifically designed for these purposes. I have had the pleasure of trying one of them out and I'm planning to purchase one myself. There's nothing magical about them but they can act as a nice aid for example in meditation.
 
yes i saw this on a channel of the shoutcast tv of winamp accedentially. people (seemd like mexicans) were in a cave, a holy place, and the natives blew little wissles and fluits, they were connected with wires so they're brain waves were recorded, and by a conbination of those tones they travelled trough space and got in trance, exploring other worlds!!!!, like a real space cadet
 
forest a dit:
could you explain what you mean with withdrawl?

The withdrawl is a unpleasant feeling that I sometimes get if I stop smoking weed for about a day. I dont experience it strongly unless I had been smoking more than 15 bowls a day for about 3 days in a row before I quit. Its somewhat hard to describe the actual feeling beyond saying that it makes me very mentally restless.
 
The withdrawl is a unpleasant feeling that I sometimes get if I stop smoking weed for about a day.

I always got that when I used to be a real pothead. When I didn't get a bong or joint until noon I became very restless, easily distracted and also a little aggressive.
 
I'm responding in support of the original poster's experiences.

Looking beyond object plains, visual light buckets and the sort. The withdrawl tick I get is associated similarly. To cope through a withdrawl, and you say you can possibly induce a mental bowl full; I've had similar experiences and thoughts. I pass them off as placebo also, but my mood is assuredly so.

My confidence is saying one way or another is flat, but I'm sharing that you (the OP) are not alone in your thoughts on that.
 
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