MAOI and Mushrooms...second opinions?

[Fascination88]

Hey all, I am new on here, but I have been reading alot of your discussions on MAOI and Mushrooms. Here is my deal, i am a 19 almost 20 year old male 165-175 lbs 6'3-6'4. I have come across two chocolates each a half 1/8th each (so together a full 1/8th). I have also ordered some syrian rue extract 10x....a friend of mine recommended a dose of 4 grams of normal rue, and when i told him about the 10x (the sight even specified that it actually meant divide your normal doses by 10) he said i should do 0.4 grams. So as i plan this day out, it will be this friday after all of my finals. Two of my friends are hippie flipping, and another is trying LSD for the first time. We are all celebrating another successful semester, as well as a beautiful day in our collective company. So there is the most important details I can think of, now here are my questions:

1.) Should I take all 3.5 grams of mushroom chocolates and all 0.4 grams of syrian rue 10x extract?
2.) how should I time out the syrian rue dosing,
3.) if im dosing around 2pm how much should i eat that day, and (i have read the foods to avoid info for MAOI's but) does anyone have any suggestions on something really good to eat earlier that day, or at what times, and what not.
4.) what can i do to reduce the nausea, i never get nausea from mushrooms, but i just hear MAOI's can be pretty sickening.......

Really, if any of you have had amazing experiences with MAOI's and mushrooms, i would really like to hear as much detail as you are willing to offer about how your preparation and administration went. Sorry this is so long, i just really want to offer as much detail so that i can get as much help from ya'll as i can. Thanks soo much, and have a beautiful day! Peace!

 

[user_1919]

Ill answer what I can, if you have more questions, feel free to ask...

" Should I take all 3.5 grams of mushroom chocolates and all 0.4 grams of syrian rue 10x extract? "

What is your experience with mushrooms? What strain are they? If they are cubensis then I would recommond no more than 2 grams dried of mushrooms. After 3 grams you usually have a fully visionary and audio hallunications. If you take all 3.5, I would recommond having somewhere to not move at all. Also if you plan to interact with your friends on that type of dose, you might be a little confused. I would plan it on what your planning on doing that day. If you are planning to go sight seeing into nature, I would stay around 2 grams dried. But if you guys/and or girls are just gonna lay inside somewhere, go for the higher dose if you feel comfortable.

" how should I time out the syrian rue dosing"

Take your rue about 1 hour before you eat your mushrooms. I would take it right when you start to feel the first effects of the Syrain Rue. (which is usually around an hour for me)

"if im dosing around 2pm how much should i eat that day, and (i have read the foods to avoid info for MAOI's but) does anyone have any suggestions on something really good to eat earlier that day, or at what times, and what not. "

Forsure don't eat all day of your dosing. Keep your dinner the night before light. I'm not 100% positive what foods you can or cannot eat. Do a simple google search and you can find this out. Also are you on and medications. This can be life threatening if on certain medications. I would obstain from any medications or pills for atleast a week before and and week after your dose.

"what can i do to reduce the nausea, i never get nausea from mushrooms, but i just hear MAOI's can be pretty sickening....... "

Fasting is a good way. Also right when you eat the mushrooms, smoke a few bowls of Marijuana. This greatly reduces naseua for me. Also if that does not help, just wait it out, it will all pass in a matter of time and you will be projected into one of the most amazing worlds there is.

Remember stay calm if something frightens you. Sometimes its not always, or ever in my case, the visuals that can be frightening, more less the places you end up mentally. Have a good trip man. Feel free to leave a TR here, I would love to know how it turned out, and what your dose was.

PEACE

 

[Forkbender]

MAO-i's and Mushrooms.
Some people hate it, some people love it.
I liked it a lot, though the trip was pretty long.
I only used a gram of rue and 1 gram of hawaiian shrooms.
The effect was more emotional, the spirit of harmala is one of loving kindness.
I experienced total freedom for 5 hours. Exhilarating.
4 grams would probably be a different story.
I did not eat anything prior to ingestion (at around 1 pm). The night before I had a regular meal.
I wouldn't do it in a group, it was too intense for interaction.
Take the rue before you eat the shrooms or together with the shrooms.
Usually it takes a little more time for the rue to come up.
Use ginger (make a tea or just put a small piece in your mouth) if you get nauseous.
3.5grams of shrooms plus 4 grams of rue is not for beginners.
You can be in hell (or heaven) for 10 hours.
Prepare mentally, physically and spiritually.
Report your story.
Good luck.

 

[Fascination88]

Wow, thank you soo much, I didn't even expect such PERFECT responses, thats what I wanted to know. I'll make sure to post my experience after friday, do i do that in the "share experience" area, or in here?.....anyway though, thanks so much. You know, I am an "experienced" psychadellic user, and I have never brought MAOI's into the game (because i never have the time i REALLY want to reflect after a DMT experience). So i really appreciate your words, it's so hard being used to seeing values of cubensis mushrooms below an 1/8th as......a very moving experience. I am sure it is possible, it was my first couple times, but still at this point in my experience it is really hard to go below an 1/8th and expect some profound moments. But thats the beauty of the human brain/body and the world we live in with its beautiful gifts! Anyway, thanks if i have anymore questions, i'll get back to ya'll. you guys are great!!!

 

[Forkbender]

No Problem.
It would be nice to read your story. If you do it on the 'share experience' page, it will be saved as a trip report, maybe post a link in this discussion...
There are some people on this forum claiming that Harmala doesn't increase a shroomtrip, because psilocybin is active without and isn't affected by MAO. However, I personally think the trip is altered. If not by the harmala, then because the harmala has an effect on its own, perhaps amplified by the shrooms.
About low doses being able to trigger deep experience: set & setting. If you prepare to travel deep, you will travel deeper, even on lower doses. I didn't use a lot, because I was experimenting with Rue for the first time, but it was very interesting. (by the way, 1 gram of Hawaiian contains about as much psiloc(yb)in as 3 grams of Cubensis).

 

[thadivine]

I have very good experiences with mushrooms and MAOI too, its definatly something cool to try.
4.5 grams of shrooms, 3 grams of passionflower, yaaay

grttz

 

[Forkbender]

Passionflower is a pretty weak MAO-i compared to Syrian Rue.
Just an FYI

 

[Meduzz]

chocolate + maoi?

 

[Fascination88]

ERRR! I just got off the phone with the people that were sending the Syrian Rue. Bad news, they sent it "to the wrong person".....? someone got lucky haha, sadly not me. Now i was checking up that the Local Vitamin Shoppe has passion flower substances for sale. Do you guys suggest doing the passion flower, and if so, how can i make it (cause i know it isnt as potent of an MAOI) like the Syrian rue? and should I alter anything about my preperation?

 

[thadivine]

Passionflower is a pretty weak MAO-i compared to Syrian Rue.
Just an FYI

Yeah, i know, but the effects where really there

 

[Fascination88]

So here's the dilemma, I am between doing the passion flower and mushroom experience, and now because of the lack of passion flower, doing mushrooms and acid. Does anyone have any history with mushrooms and acid? I know both exclusively well, but in terms of combining, I don't know anything. I just would really like to go to a "new" level tomorrow, and experience a novel feeling, or atleast a powerful one. :-D thanks again guys.

 

[HeartCore]

MAOI and mushrooms.

Regardless of the advice here, you may want to choose to not wait any longer than 15-20 minutes taking the shrooms after the MAOI.

It happens sometimes, and I know a group of people that found out the hard way, that Sirian Rue comes up violently and nauseates everybody to the extreme. Imagine 5-6 people being dead sick for four hourse vomiting their intestines out while for each and everyone, a glass of mimosa thee is waiting which they just can't drink.

My personal one time peganum harmala experience three years ago was very rewarding and I intent to repeat it sometime next summer. I took 3 grams of rue, made a tea, swallowed all and then took 3 grams of dried shrooms twenty minutes after. Amazing deep trip.

 

[st.bot.32]

Ok I'm scared to ask. Well not really.

Lets say somebody hypothetically had a couple weak tabs floating around. Could you combine LSD with MAOI's as well to make the most of those weak tabs? (As it is chemically similar to psilocybin?) Or is that just asking for trouble?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Don't use MAOi if you can avoid them. MAOi make high changes in body. Liver first and then nerves. Use them only if they essential part of drug, like Ayahuasca and all other only MAOi effective drugs. Ibogaine is MAOi! What it does? Flush nerves out of opiates and "clean" you out of addiction. But "only clean you out". MAOi are dangerous chems., no worth risk with them for little different or higher acting trip. Shit can happen like stroke, psychosis or harder damage of brain tissue.