LSD first timer

[stacey88]

So I am new to the whole LSD thing....I know lame. I am just really kind of nervous about doing it and was wondering if anyone could give me some info? Like do you get sick your first time, because I hate getting sick and just what it was like? Sorry fpr being such a newb haha.

 

[GOD]

No you wont get sick . And dont worry , its realy nice , just relax and expect to have a good time . Most people build them selves up a bit the first time , and then when they come up they have a good laugh about it . What other drugs have you got experience with ? Have you ever had Psilocybin mushrooms ? Its not much different than mushrooms .

 

[Forkbender]

I know lame.

No, it's not lame.

And what GOD said: you won't get sick. You might have some psychosomatic outburst, which you might interpret as getting sick, but it's all in your head. Read up on what it does and you'll be fine. Nervousness is very common.

 

[sopor]

GOD, u said that acid is not much different from shrooms...

So, I experienced a few shroom trips (2-5g dry), but never done acid. Now I finally got my hands on some. I guess I would be safe eating a whole blotter(200ug)?What intensity of a trip can I expect compared to shrooms?

 

[Forkbender]

In my case, LSD is more psychological, whereas Mushrooms are more spiritual/extatic. Only on higher doses of LSD (definitely more than 200 mics) will I get some sort of spiritual trip. LSD is easier to control than Mushrooms in my opinion.

 

[Brugmansia]

Even though shrooms and Acid are both psychedelics, you totally go another path as the trip goes by.

Acid is way more linear and less confronting, it's more universal and the path in front of you is clear. For controling, merely relaxtion and slow and deeps breaths are required.

While shrooms are 'darker' with ups and downs, you're going through a misty forest, encountering detailed phenomenons which won't catch your attention usually. When walking through the nature, you're one with animals, the wind, the birds, leafes, tree's. Spiritual and astonished by this wonderful appearance. Ancient and raw nature. The behaviour of our anecstors may get truly a meaning.

Acid is more easy going, you see the world as a part of the universe, while with shrooms, you're totally connected with the appearances on earth. This goes for your other thoughts as well.

The visuals of Acid seem more measured, mathematical. And consist of symmetrical fractals. Shrooms visuals are more odd and raw, just as the nature in the forest.

 

[Guest]

but wasn't this experiment where patients were administered a "tripping" dose of LSD, psilocin or DMT, and they were all confused which one was which, because they were not told what they were given ? perhaps it was the purity of the samples, because if we sense so much difference between the compounds...something may be wrong, no ? perhaps we get a not-so-clean acid, and different molecules (i belive they are also alkaloids, like in the peyote and ergot) in the shrooms, since a very little percentage of persons can get their hands on pure psilocybin (or is it psilocin?)
more on topic: stacey88, just don't fight anything that comes along, let it go and you'll have a marvelous time. it will open doors that cannot be shut again. i wish you a good trip!

 

[Forkbender]

Did this experiment use 'experienced' subjects? Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.

 

[Guest]

as far as i know, yes. but i cannot remember the source, i don't have it printed. i know everything that i have, but when i don't have that book, i don't know where it is and ii don't have a way to prove it!

 

[tryptonaut]

Look what Albert Hofmann wrote on the difference between LSD and psilocybin:

For me this entry into the mushroom world had been a test, a confrontation with a dead world and with the void. The experiment had developed differently from what I had expected. Nevertheless, the encounter with the void can also be appraised as a gain. Then the existence of the creation appears so much more wondrous. [...]
The mushroom substance had carried all four of us off, not into luminous heights, rather into deeper regions. It seems that the psilocybin inebriation is more darkly colored in the majority of cases than the inebriation produced by LSD. The influence of these two active substances is sure to differ from one individual to another. Personally, for me, there was more light in the LSD experiments than in the experiments with the earthy mushroom, just as Ernst Junger remarks in the preceding report.

Hofmann, Albert; LSD my problem child

You can read the whole book on http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/my_problem_child/
it's very enlightening. The quote was taken from chapter 7.2

 

[GOD]

If your acid is pure you should not have any real physical symptoms at all , but maybe psychelogicaly caused physical symptoms .

"So, I experienced a few shroom trips (2-5g dry), but never done acid. Now I finally got my hands on some. I guess I would be safe eating a whole blotter(200ug)?What intensity of a trip can I expect compared to shrooms?"

You didnt say what sort of mushrooms you have experience with ? , or if they were dry ? And with LSD do you know if its pure LSD ? , and do you definately know what the dose is ? If you dont know the chemist personaly you wont know either for sure . I wouldnt take less than one if i were you , but maybe you can ask friends of yours who have experience with both of them how they compare , or just ask what that particular LSD is like .

"LSD is easier to control than Mushrooms in my opinion."

Wow!!! Not in my opinion , i feel that mushrooms are LSDs little brother . But i supose it also about purity and dose and as i said above what you expect / are told to expect . With mushrooms you usualy know what you have and that it is pure , with LSD thats not usualy the case .

I agree with Daytripper on this , the drug just switches a switch and the rest is you and what you are expecting .

"Did this experiment use 'experienced' subjects? Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense."

I dont know if the experiments were with experienced users or not , or with both , but i dont agree with you that it "must" be done with experienced users for the reasons i said above . It was done with injections of pure drugs in the muscle i think . Its mostly expectation . I was a bit sceptical when i read about those tests as i thought that i would be able to tell the drugs apart by the length of their action .

"Look what Albert Hofmann wrote on the difference between LSD and psilocybin"

In the german edition its not in the part that you said , it comes much later in the book and i dont totaly agree with the translation from the german original into english . He knew what he was taking before he took it so his expectations , and the effects that he had had from previous experiences with real mushrooms can not be ruled out as the source of the differences that he experienced . Plus the depths that he reported could be depths in his own psychelogical make up .

The book LSD my problem child is one of the books in the files that i found in the internet and gave the adresses of in the "Free books" thread in the Market place section of this forum . An adress for the german edition can be found in the german section of this forum .

Maybe one day when Psychonuts.com has a gathering in Amsterdam we can all go and test it by doing blind tests . All we have to do is make mushroom teas and mix LSD with water and put colour in them and tastes so no one who takes a glass of either knows what he has had and see what happens ???

 

[Entheonaut]

I have to agree with Forkbender and Brugmansia about the character of LSD. No offence GOD, I'm not saying you're not right, I just experience it diffirently than you do. =)

By the way 200 mic acid is certainly not more intense than 5 g dried cubensis. (hard to compare exactly)

 

[GOD]

"No offence"

Non taken .

"I'm not saying you're not right"

Its not a question of if i`m right , i`m just repeating what i have read . I dont know if its right , but blind tests would be fun and show what is what .

"I just experience it differently than you do"

Me 2 , but as i said maybe it depends on what we are expecting and the dose and purity of what we are taking .

 

[sopor]

By the way 200 mic acid is certainly not more intense than 5 g dried cubensis. (hard to compare exactly)

This is what I wanted to hear. I think that I am able to handle a trip with intensity of 5g dried cubensis.

I have no a idea how clean is the LSD in the blotters I am getting. They are supposed to come from NL and it is said that they are the 100th anniversary Hoffmans (look like ones in GOD's avatar).

Most people say that it is not wise to take a whole for the first time. But since I have some xp with hallucinogens I feel like I can handle it.

Thanks for all the info.

 

[Entheonaut]

I have no a idea how clean is the LSD in the blotters I am getting. They are supposed to come from NL and it is said that they are the 100th anniversary Hoffmans (look like ones in GOD's avatar).

Most people say that it is not wise to take a whole for the first time. But since I have some xp with hallucinogens I feel like I can handle it.

They said the same to me. Don't try a whole one the first time, but just like you, I allready had some experience so I went for the full 200 mic, and it was perfect for me. I'm not saying you must take a whole one, but taking little bits of acid spread out over a period of time isn't going to give you a real blast.

Have fun!

 

[Meduzz]

in my opinion, EVERY trip gives you more than you expect.

the human memory is too simple to store information about previous trips.

i passed out on 30gr fresh golden teacher yesterday, will post a report soon (as soon as i find the words for what happened, maybe never...)