Lormetazepam for bad trip

[Meduzz]

is it safe to combine lormetazepam with LSD/shrooms/mescalin/LSA?
i have a tablet and i would keep it in a safe place in case of a bad trip like users sometimes do valium to supress fear. just wanted to be sure because with benzo's you can't be sure enough i think.

 

[Jahvisions]

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_onl ... ence.shtml

Should external emergencies call for it, Thorazine (100-200 mg, i.m.) or other phenothiazine-type tranquilizers will terminate the effects of psychedelic drugs. Antidotes should not be used simply because the voyager or the guide is frightened. Instead, the appropriate sections of the Third Bardo should be read. [Further, more detailed suggestions concerning dosage may be found in a paper by Gary M. Fisher: "Some Comments Concerning Dosage Levels of Psychedelic Compounds for Psychotherapeutic Experiences." Psychedelic Review, I, no.2, pp. 208-218, 1963.]

 

[Guest]

imho, the deep fear that one can get from a strong dose is one of the best experiences one can have AFTER the trip has faded. don't eliminate the yin from the yang, if you know what i'm meaning. when you decide to trip, you get the full package...

 

[Meduzz]

you're absolutely right but i'd feel safer if there was a bad trip antidote on my desk when i try mescaline for the first time. just to be sure
i got these pills from a friend for no money, so i might as well look for a useful way to use them.

 

[JosVU]

I use words, music or friends.
And i guess if you want to get over the fear you have no option than fase it :wink:
Works with me, if i try to resist it only gets worse just like a bad dream.

What a wonderfull world by Louis Armstrong always helps me, in whatever situation, to get a huge smile.

And then again, if you're going the wrong way acording to you and you can FIND these little pills they only work after let say an hour?
That would mean you first are not happy about what the drugs is doing to you till there is a point where you say ok to much I'll take the pills and then you have to wait till they work.. Lots of time wasted there, if you ask me. Ok I don't know the reason for your trip but my guess is to learn something somehow but in that time you're freaking out you can search for the reason why it went wrong?

Offcourse every one is tripping his own way. For there own reasons.
In my case best remedy is still: Go with the flow...

 

[Meduzz]

thanks for the good advice, i have had some difficult experiences but not to call them bad trips. i just heared about people using valium or other benzo's to calm down so i wanted to be prepared.

i guess i'll just have to take these lormetazepam pills while not tripping

 

[Meduzz]

took one yesterday, i was planning to watch a movie in my room on my laptop but the last thing i remember is taking the pill, searching a movie and waking up on a chair next to my bed

i allready were tired and i had like 5 beers between 15:30 and 18:00, smoked a joint and took the lormetazepam around 22:30.

 

[Arecibo]

I agree to the fact that the occurring of a bad trip should make you think about the causes of it.
Else, if you don't find why you lived that, it is relatively probable that you'll make it other times.

But I also think a bad trip can really be a very unbearable experience...
In this eventuality, if you want to calm down, you can take a benzodiazepine. It is relatively safe and it works well on psychedelics-induced anxiety.
Of course, it won't make disappear all the effects like the waving of a magic wand but it can make the experience bearable. And when you feel really bad, it is a delivery.

Furthermore, if you try to theorize the reasons of the bad trip during the trip itself, you will dramatically increase this bad moment.

I think the reflexion could be done after the trip, it is better for the quality of your analysis, and better for you.

It's up to you to have this reflexion thereafter and to not believe that, the bad moment spent, it is not necessary anymore.


(Edit: I hope that this message is comprehensible, the lack of english practise make me lose vocabulary...)