Legalize drugs to stop violence

Caduceus Mercurius

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"Legalization is desirable for all drugs, not just marijuana. The health risks of marijuana are lower than those of many other drugs, but that is not the crucial issue. Much of the traffic from Mexico or Colombia is for cocaine, heroin and other drugs, while marijuana production is increasingly domestic. Legalizing only marijuana would therefore fail to achieve many benefits of broader legalization."

CNN Commentary: Legalize drugs to stop violence

by economist Jeffrey Miron

CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts (CNN), March 24 2009 -- Over the past two years, drug violence in Mexico has become a fixture of the daily news. Some of this violence pits drug cartels against one another; some involves confrontations between law enforcement and traffickers.

Recent estimates suggest thousands have lost their lives in this "war on drugs."

The U.S. and Mexican responses to this violence have been predictable: more troops and police, greater border controls and expanded enforcement of every kind. Escalation is the wrong response, however; drug prohibition is the cause of the violence.

Prohibition creates violence because it drives the drug market underground. This means buyers and sellers cannot resolve their disputes with lawsuits, arbitration or advertising, so they resort to violence instead.

Violence was common in the alcohol industry when it was banned during Prohibition, but not before or after.

Violence is the norm in illicit gambling markets but not in legal ones. Violence is routine when prostitution is banned but not when it's permitted. Violence results from policies that create black markets, not from the characteristics of the good or activity in question.

The only way to reduce violence, therefore, is to legalize drugs. Fortuitously, legalization is the right policy for a slew of other reasons.

Prohibition of drugs corrupts politicians and law enforcement by putting police, prosecutors, judges and politicians in the position to threaten the profits of an illicit trade. This is why bribery, threats and kidnapping are common for prohibited industries but rare otherwise. Mexico's recent history illustrates this dramatically.

Prohibition erodes protections against unreasonable search and seizure because neither party to a drug transaction has an incentive to report the activity to the police. Thus, enforcement requires intrusive tactics such as warrantless searches or undercover buys. The victimless nature of this so-called crime also encourages police to engage in racial profiling.

Prohibition has disastrous implications for national security. By eradicating coca plants in Colombia or poppy fields in Afghanistan, prohibition breeds resentment of the United States. By enriching those who produce and supply drugs, prohibition supports terrorists who sell protection services to drug traffickers.

Prohibition harms the public health. Patients suffering from cancer, glaucoma and other conditions cannot use marijuana under the laws of most states or the federal government despite abundant evidence of its efficacy. Terminally ill patients cannot always get adequate pain medication because doctors may fear prosecution by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

Drug users face restrictions on clean syringes that cause them to share contaminated needles, thereby spreading HIV, hepatitis and other blood-borne diseases.

Prohibitions breed disrespect for the law because despite draconian penalties and extensive enforcement, huge numbers of people still violate prohibition. This means those who break the law, and those who do not, learn that obeying laws is for suckers.

Prohibition is a drain on the public purse. Federal, state and local governments spend roughly $44 billion per year to enforce drug prohibition. These same governments forego roughly $33 billion per year in tax revenue they could collect from legalized drugs, assuming these were taxed at rates similar to those on alcohol and tobacco. Under prohibition, these revenues accrue to traffickers as increased profits.

The right policy, therefore, is to legalize drugs while using regulation and taxation to dampen irresponsible behavior related to drug use, such as driving under the influence. This makes more sense than prohibition because it avoids creation of a black market. This approach also allows those who believe they benefit from drug use to do so, as long as they do not harm others.

Legalization is desirable for all drugs, not just marijuana. The health risks of marijuana are lower than those of many other drugs, but that is not the crucial issue. Much of the traffic from Mexico or Colombia is for cocaine, heroin and other drugs, while marijuana production is increasingly domestic. Legalizing only marijuana would therefore fail to achieve many benefits of broader legalization.

It is impossible to reconcile respect for individual liberty with drug prohibition. The U.S. has been at the forefront of this puritanical policy for almost a century, with disastrous consequences at home and abroad.

The U.S. repealed Prohibition of alcohol at the height of the Great Depression, in part because of increasing violence and in part because of diminishing tax revenues. Similar concerns apply today, and Attorney General Eric Holder's recent announcement that the Drug Enforcement Administration will not raid medical marijuana distributors in California suggests an openness in the Obama administration to rethinking current practice.

Perhaps history will repeat itself, and the U.S. will abandon one of its most disastrous policy experiments.

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The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Jeffrey Miron.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/24/miron.legalization.drugs/
 
They're beginning to see the light!
 
this even could be the answer to the economical crisis. Imagine the government making millions on drugtaxes. Then they'd have more money to spend on important issues and we, the users, don't get the risk of being jailed for drug possesion. A win-win situation :D
 
this is great
it means they are finally realizing this whole drug war is causing the problem not the drugs themselves and the drugs have been round for thousands of years,
 
The best news is that CNN is watched by the masses.
It's about time to WAKE UP.
 
a few years ago I wrote on my backpack "legalize drugs , stop wars"
 
I personally wish there wasn't this emphasis on legalizing marijuana. I feel it takes from the energy/debate needed to demand de-criminalization of psychedelics/sacred medicine

I have not doe a surbvey, but I am sure Indigenous peoples didn't toke on weed day in day out like a lot of westetrners do--who usually pine for its legalization (I am not saying those here do, but from personal experience and friends etc)

I think all-the-time dope smoking is detetrimental, unless you have a some disease only marydowanna can help
 
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but I am sure Indigenous peoples didn't toke on weed day in day out like a lot of westetrners do
To many Shaivites (the dreads from India) it is a religious custom to toke at least three puffs every sunrise, noon and sunset (tri-vandhyam) in honor of Lord Shiva, who roams the Earth at those times. And for the rastafarians, daily use is common as well. In Persian mysticism and Sufism too it seems to have been used as a daily sacrament:

Chris Bennet a dit:
Once a certain Sufi of Basra began to consume hashish regularly, his shaykh realized this meant he had reached the ultimate degree of perfection, and no longer stood in need of guidance. This (says Fuzuli) 'proves that hashish is the perfect being, sought after by mankind with great eagerness. It may not be the perfect being for everybody, but it most certainly is for the seeker of mystical experience.'
Sufi Tokers and the Green Saint
And:
medieval Sufi poet a dit:
Haydar's Emerald cup

Give up wine and drink from the wine of Haydar,
Amber scented, green the color of emerald.
It is presented to you by a Turkish gazelle, slender,
Swaying like a willow bough, delicate.
In his hand, you would think, as he turns it,
It is like the traces of down on a rosy cheek.
The slightest breeze makes it reel,
And it flutters toward the coolness of the continuing breeze.
The grayish pigeons coo upon its branches in the morning.
And the cadences of the warbling doves cause it emotion.
It has many meanings the like of which are unknown to wine.
Therefore do not listen with respect to the words of the old censor.
It is virginal, not deflowered by rain,
Nor has it ever been squeezed by feet or hands,
No Christian priest has ever played around with a cup containing it,
Nor have they ever communion from its cask to any heretic's soul...
Nothing has been said expressly from Malik to declare it unlawful,
Nor is the hadd penalty for its use... prescribed...
Thus take it with the sharp edge of steel.
Stay the hands of worry with kyff and achieve joyful repose.
Do not lightly postpone the day of joy till tomorrow.
'The days will show you what you were ignorant of,
And someone for who you did not provide (to serve as your
messenger) will bring you the news'
 
Caduceus Mercurius a dit:
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but I am sure Indigenous peoples didn't toke on weed day in day out like a lot of westetrners do
To many Shaivites (the dreads from India) it is a religious custom to toke at least three puffs every sunrise, noon and sunset (tri-vandhyam) in honor of Lord Shiva, who roams the Earth at those times. And for the rastafarians, daily use is common as well. In Persian mysticism and Sufism too it seems to have been used as a daily sacrament:

Chris Bennet a dit:
Once a certain Sufi of Basra began to consume hashish regularly, his shaykh realized this meant he had reached the ultimate degree of perfection, and no longer stood in need of guidance. This (says Fuzuli) 'proves that hashish is the perfect being, sought after by mankind with great eagerness. It may not be the perfect being for everybody, but it most certainly is for the seeker of mystical experience.'
Sufi Tokers and the Green Saint
And:
medieval Sufi poet a dit:
Haydar's Emerald cup

Give up wine and drink from the wine of Haydar,
Amber scented, green the color of emerald.
It is presented to you by a Turkish gazelle, slender,
Swaying like a willow bough, delicate.
In his hand, you would think, as he turns it,
It is like the traces of down on a rosy cheek.
The slightest breeze makes it reel,
And it flutters toward the coolness of the continuing breeze.
The grayish pigeons coo upon its branches in the morning.
And the cadences of the warbling doves cause it emotion.
It has many meanings the like of which are unknown to wine.
Therefore do not listen with respect to the words of the old censor.
It is virginal, not deflowered by rain,
Nor has it ever been squeezed by feet or hands,
No Christian priest has ever played around with a cup containing it,
Nor have they ever communion from its cask to any heretic's soul...
Nothing has been said expressly from Malik to declare it unlawful,
Nor is the hadd penalty for its use... prescribed...
Thus take it with the sharp edge of steel.
Stay the hands of worry with kyff and achieve joyful repose.
Do not lightly postpone the day of joy till tomorrow.
'The days will show you what you were ignorant of,
And someone for who you did not provide (to serve as your
messenger) will bring you the news'
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I don't really count the Shaivites and Rastafarians as Indigenous--in the meaning I mean, but part of patriarchal religious movements.

For example, take native Americans, who I do understand as being indigenous, we know that some tribes had the Peace Pipe. But I am sure I have read that this was for ceremonial occasions, and was not used on an everyday basis.

I have seen how Rastas smoke and it is very very intense, taking huge blows and it just cannot be good for the body. It didn't do Bob Marley much good!

I remember my toking years (I've given up the habit over two years) which were very long--many many moons. Well, I would toke 'religiously' every day, and I would choose to not put too much in spliffs, average about from one to about 3 per day, and I remember always feeling stoned. Mushy.

WHY I ask is our non-drugged state feared? Seen to be less-than?......I do realize that it can be argued foods are 'drugs'--in that they have chemicals and what not. But that is different. Ganja is deliberately consumed for its drug-like effects.
 
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For example, take native Americans, who I do understand as being indigenous, we know that some tribes had the Peace Pipe.
Well, I don't think they used cannabis at all, rather tobacco and some other herbs. There are lots of indications that they didn't even know about Peyote or other potent entheogens until recently (a couple of hundred years ago). The Shaivites and avadhutas of India have been getting high for thousands of years however.

I have seen how Rastas smoke and it is very very intense, taking huge blows and it just cannot be good for the body. It didn't do Bob Marley much good!
What do you mean? It helped him become an amazing artist, making millions of people happy and relaxed, not to mention the political message he helped spread. He didn't die from smoking too much, but because his religious convictions kept him from getting his toe amputated, so the cancer there (somehow caused by a soccer injury) spread to his brain.
 
Caduceus Mercurius a dit:
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For example, take native Americans, who I do understand as being indigenous, we know that some tribes had the Peace Pipe.
Well, I don't think they used cannabis at all, rather tobacco and some other herbs. There are lots of indications that they didn't even know about Peyote or other potent entheogens until recently (a couple of hundred years ago). The Shaivites and avadhutas of India have been getting high for thousands of years however.

I believe their tobacco was far more potent than 'our'. And I also am not sure your right about native americans coming late to enthoegens. Yes this may be right for the tribe that now how Peyote chuirch, but they were influenced by another tribe that came into contact (sorry about being vague. I have notes about this filed up ...somewhere). Also remember the Huichol have been taking the sacred Peyote since very anceint times. Also Dan Russell, in his book, Shamnism and the Drug Propaganda, reveals the prolific use of sacred medicine amongst indigenous peoples worldwide
Surely the common use of cannabis/skunk in our culture is more a self-medication due to various frustrations coming from pressures of civilization. A civilization itself oppressing people via its mental illness myth! We have to really understand this to understand the embrace of ganja - especially by the youth - as daily 'self-medication'

[quote:ldcpk4g6][quote:ldcpk4g6]I have seen how Rastas smoke and it is very very intense, taking huge blows and it just cannot be good for the body. It didn't do Bob Marley much good!
What do you mean? It helped him become an amazing artist, making millions of people happy and relaxed, not to mention the political message he helped spread. He didn't die from smoking too much, but because his religious convictions kept him from getting his toe amputated, so the cancer there (somehow caused by a soccer injury) spread to his brain.[/quote:ldcpk4g6][/quote:ldcpk4g6]

Well, hmmmm, I didn't know about that? Was that the actual cause? What sources do you have?
And it brings in other questions then.
For one, you don't know for sure that all the dope he toked didn't contribute to a weak immune system which allowed cancer to take hold. s well as the tar that is more than it even is for tobacco smoke. That surely must have an effect on the organism.
And WHY would his belief system deny him getting a diseased part of his body ampuated? I know Rastarfariansim is homophobic, because I have had dealings with some Rastas who will preach that.

CM, I am aware that in most of the coffee houses in the Dam is is--well it was when I was there a few years ago--to have Bob Marley-like images over them, and that this added to the cool of tokin ganja.
But I am suspicious. I*f you for example look at Dan Russell's book Drug War: Covert Money, Power & Policy http://www.drugwar.com/dwindex.shtmbriety

The Real History of the Drug War, you will find that it suits the secret government to wagea drug war so as to keep prices up, and they use this money for various means. So think about it--it'd be in their interests to create a dangerous mystique surrounding Marijuana--a 'forbidden fruit' scenario, and this way it inevitably stays in the hands of their lackies the criminal gangsters and 'Drug Lords' etc. Supply and demand.

From there any one speaking against it is automatically one of the drug warriors. Totally uncool

But what is it deeperly say? To me, that in sobriety we are somehow lacking. We are not 'high'....? So what are we then? What is opposite of high? Low?
 
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For one, you don't know for sure that all the dope he toked didn't contribute to a weak immune system which allowed cancer to take hold. s well as the tar that is more than it even is for tobacco smoke. That surely must have an effect on the organism.
Despite decades of research and propaganda, no one has proved that smoking cannabis has caused cancer in anyone, despite the tar and toxic gasses released when the herb is combusted. Bob Marley was one out of millions of people who have died of cancer at an early age. At least unlike Elvis, Janis, Jimi and Jim he didn't die from the ingestion of any drug. Cannabis is safe, even when ingested the way the Wailers did.

And WHY would his belief system deny him getting a diseased part of his body ampuated?
It's all described on his Wikipedia page:

Illness

In July 1977, Marley was found to have acral lentiginous melanoma, a form of malignant melanoma, in a football wound - according to widely held urban legend, inflicted by broadcaster and pundit Danny Baker[17] - on his right big toe. Marley refused amputation, because of the Rastafari belief that the body must be "whole."

Marley may have seen medical doctors as samfai (tricksters, deceivers). True to this belief Marley went against all surgical possibilities and sought out other means that would not break his religious beliefs. He also refused to register a will, based on the Rastafari belief that writing a will is acknowledging death as inevitable, thus disregarding the everlasting (or everliving, as Rastas say) character of life.

The cancer then metastasized to Marley's brain, lungs, liver, and stomach. After playing two shows at Madison Square Garden as part of his fall 1980 Uprising Tour, he collapsed while jogging in NYC's Central Park. The remainder of the tour was subsequently cancelled.
 
"despite the tar and toxic gasses released when the herb is combusted"

well tar and toxic gases are tar and toxic gases is what i am saying, and they can have an effect. ..thjat can to toxic, just like any other substance

ie., Chocolate is very very niiice. But abused and it can heve negative effects. Didn't Mckenna mention 'drugs' not usually considered drugs in our culture, in his book Food of the Gods ? and he included chocolate, coffee, alcohol

The manufacturers of alcohol regularly put our news bytes that drinking so much booze a day is 'good for you' also. But our experience in reality here is many young people in terrible drinking habits!

Also CM, in a way your experience in Holland is very novelty to the rest of Europe---because you have kept CHOICE of marijuana and cannabis etc. I remember that when I first started toking---you had choice of different types of marijuana, and cannabis--nepalese, afghani, black, lebonese, thai stick, -------very many! And this didn't last. gradually because of drug war, and the greed of the dealers in black markey mixing 'formula', and putting non psychoative herbs with grass deals etc etc, people were forced--me included--to depend on the MUCH more potent Skunk! In later years of my habit I was paying about £40 per month for my 'fix', but that is not much for some tokers---I tried to put as little as possible in my spliffs, and often got put down for doing this by peers!...I say youth put so much skunk in spliffs you couldn't see the tobacco

Skunk is very powerful and they haven't done any studies that much that show its long tem effects. But there are almost nuthin BUT 'skunk farms' in action here now-------as far as I'm aware
 
The fuckers are allready makeing millions with drug taxes from big drug firms . Taxing , and getting bribed by , them is easy . If the "illegal" drug market was legalised = decentralised the bribes would be more difficult to get and smaller so would the taxes .
 
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