Keeping big amounts of smoke in (like salvia)

[Brugmansia]

Is it just me or is the effect of weed (pure of course) much more powerful if you suck a lot into a waterpipe, inhale as much as you can and keep it in?

I hate to cough awfully, but I felt like I was tripping. And my body felt like it was swollen.

 

[Meduzz]

There is a study somewhere that compared THC content of smoke from joints vs. bongs vs. vaporisers. It seemed that the cold water filtered out a part of the THC. GOD can tell you more about this study, there was a thread by him once.

I have a bong but I don't use it anymore. It makes me cough to hard and then I'm all :wasted:

 

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[Meduzz]

CO2 is psychoactive too, you know...

 

[Icelus]

There is a study somewhere that compared THC content of smoke from joints vs. bongs vs. vaporisers. It seemed that the cold water filtered out a part of the THC. GOD can tell you more about this study, there was a thread by him once.

http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06359mj1.html

 

[restin]

My bong is also resting in peace now...and when I smoke joints it also feels unpleasant. Vaporizer -> take a whooooole bowl, very slowly, hold it in. It is as if you inhaled air, it sometimes sometimes makes you cough a but (if the weed is old) but it is absolutely the best.

Bong needs as specific tecnique I do not know as sometimes I made it perfectly and sometimes I caughed my balls off...eek.

I think that bongs are still stronger than joints (in my system). But it can be very unpleasant and a-psychedelic, vaporizer is easy to control when you know how much you need.

 

[FluidDruid]

I use a large glass pipe, works wonders for me I seem to get a more intense rush than I do with my bong ( and I Love it )

"Pure" cannabis, only way I smoke it (rarely smoke joint's or blunts) is the way to go!

Oh, and Listen to the group "Tycho" if your feeling paranoid/anxious/nauseous or whatever! Listen to it! It will Automatically throw you into a peaceful mood, I'm not sure why.

http://tychomusic.com/

Use it as a tool! even when your driving (It puts in you into a different mood/perception of things going on around you, (At least it does for me)).


EDIT: Also burn incense to increase your smoking pleasure! Natural antidepressant!!

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

My vaporizer puts the vapor in a bag. After inhaling, you can also blow it into that or another bag again. This can be useful when you're dealing with expensive vapor. :wink:

 

[Forkbender]

I forgot where, but I read that about 99% of THC is absorbed in the lungs within 4 seconds. Holding the smoke in longer than that is unnecessary.

 

[GOD]

Agree . Smoke contains the burning products and everything that can be distilled from your substance . THC forms a vapour at a certain temperature . The tars vaporise at a much higher temperature . The chemicals that vaporise at the lowest temperature are the first to condense in your lungs . The tars and things that vaporise at a higher temperature condense later . Those tars cause you to cough and form a layer in your lungs = you cough and cant get stoned anymore . The people who think that bongs make you high have never been high . They arent high they are wacked . Poisoned with CO2 and suffering from oxygen deficiency . Bong smokers think that disyness , headache , oxygen deficiency and dificulty to breath = being high.............

 

[restin]

Can you say more about the coughing? I sometimes even need to cough from vaporizer :? Stupid throat. But I agree that it really changes the trip/high. Couldn't it be because of the blood that is stronger pumped to the brain, while coughing, that something changes?

 

[GOD]

If you cough maybe try to change the way you pull . Pull less , pull slower , pull with an open mouth = not closed around the stem .

The coughing bit is a personal idea / experience . Coughing is a sign to the body to start a cleaning reaction . You also loose the relaxedness you had and the continuity of the high , your dream , is broken . Cannabis is drifting away , coughing is nailing your foot to the floor . I had the feeling i had a sort of full body reaction , as if my blood preasure went up and my skin got a bit wet . Something like a mild alergy reaction . I also got headache and coughed even more .

 

[restin]

yes it is quite true...especially the lost relaxation...most times when I cough it is a reaction of the throat ("kratzen")...could cold water help then? Because if the throat is irritated, I do not know if changing the kind of pulling could help much - or am I wrong?

 

[GOD]

The position one sits in also makes a difference . A straight would be best .

I used to smoke loads and where the stream of smoke hit my throat some of it condensed and iritated me . I used to be able to smoke and vary where the stream of smoke condensed . And smaller pulls with more air can also help . Otherwise stop smoking for a few days and afterwards try to be smoke differently .

 

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[druglessdouglas]

good looking oil

i used to smoke cannabis, but i never exhaled

 

[GOD]

Smoke / vaporie it of glass or better when your pipe is full of gras ashes drop a drop of oil on it and light it carefully with the pipe on its side or upside down . If you keep it moving you dont loose it all in one suck in the stem .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Yeah about that, I noticed that if you suck the joint with your tongue, so the smoke fills your mouth, then inhale all quickly then it wont condense so much into the part of your lungs where little hairs make the resin move up (forgot the name) bronchia ?

Anyways, if it condenses in your lungs usually you don't cough, and I agree a good quality vaporiser is the way to go.

You can make a cheap vaporiser by finding some very thick aluminum (it has to be thick, almost like the little pie plates) and shape it to the end of a glass. Then put that aluminum on the stovetop for a while a heat it real good (maybe your stove can make it too hot and melt/vaporise it, be careful and do some tests)

This should vaporise all the aluminum dust that isn't part of the main piece and this makes sure you don't end up smoking aluminum (its very nasty and makes you cough)

Then you just have to add your favorite legal herb and heat gently from below, do not put the flame direcly on the aluminum, it will vaporise in very small quantities and is very toxic.

You can then let it cool a little, open it gently and stick a straw in there

 

[????????]

My vaporizer puts the vapor in a bag. After inhaling, you can also blow it into that or another bag again.

ahh so you can actually smoke with no odor??? if true i envy your ninja highs

hey Fluid the music you posted is very nice! reminds a bit of Boards of Canada..

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Dude you have 999 posts, quickly ! Post again !!!

I have seen this vaporiser it looks awesome !