is this dob?

[st.bot.32]

Moved this because I think it needs its own thread.
A while ago I had a chance to try a couple tabs that had a very strong taste to them (which is strange, i would think they are flavorless).. comeup seriously was something like 4-6 hours. Didn't even realize how strong they were until I stood up and then the world turned into a digital mosaic. I think I was peaking around the time other people were tiring out and getting ready for shuteye. incredibly smooth, blissful but LONG trip (after peaking, 12 more hours of quite intense visuals, mild visuals 20 hours later).
I'm wondering if that was actually DOB. It sure felt a lot like 'cid, the mental trip was there, but sort of without the intense peak at 2 hours. Surprised at how long it took to kick in. (Also because of the chemical taste)

Anyway if it is, any idea why people would sell this as acid? Cheaper, easier to make?

 

[GOD]

It sounds to me like it could have been a "Reaserch chemical" like :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromo-DragonFly

I think there are a lot of greedy people out there buying things like that from the net and reselling them as acid . Most people cant synthesise acid but everyone can buy strange things from the net .

 

[user_1919]

Sound to me like Bromo DragonFLY just as GOD said. From the research I have just did on google, I am pretty sure it is Bromo DragonFLY. I just read a trip report where the individuals experience did not really 'start going' until 5 hours, and lasted a long time. Also in this TR, the individual describes the taste like 2-CB, if you know what that tastes like.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=67193

Here is another TR in which the individual describes a 4-5 hour wait until the trip started into 'full gear'.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=46207

Looks to me like you got some Bromo DragonFLY, but I can't say forsure.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[st.bot.32]

Interesting.. thanks for the info.

It's too bad. The supplier seemed very legit and people were vouching for the stuff. Oh well. Most people can't tell the difference at lower doses it seems. There is a real lack of education/awareness in these matters in the psychedelic community. I still meet lots of people who think there are "different kinds of acid". There's only one kind of acid, and that's LSD-25 (technically ALD-52 also I guess).

I actually had an incredibly good, deep trip, in nature. Watching trees burst into fractal patterns, listening to the rain for hours, sounds changing into auditory hallucinations of children's voices, ocean waves... But what bothers me of course is if someone decided to "double the dose" they could hurt themselves with this stuff.

 

[user_1919]

I think you would be fine doubling to dose. Doses are some 200-800 ugs, but I have read TR that sound insane and one could kill himself mentally.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[st.bot.32]

I've only had 2CI, not 2CB. Now that I think about it, yes there was a similarity in the taste. The trip was profoundly different of course (much deeper).

 

[user_1919]

I'm not sure if 2CI and 2CB have similar taste, maybe someone else can provide that information.

 

[st.bot.32]

Read the trip reports and there are definitely similarities with my experience. Unlike the two trip reports though, I took 2 tabs and had quite a sensual trip. There were people who, thinking it was 'cid took a bit more than me and felt physical discomfort. I think you guys might be right, bromo dragonfly is possibly what I actually got. The only reason it might not be is that it seems to be a very rare substance and apparently there was a lot of it floating about all the sudden for a while...
Thanks for the info.

 

[st.bot.32]

I'm wondering if it would be a good idea if I came across a bit more, to get this stuff tested. Especially if it is hitting the streets as blotter acid now.

 

[Forkbender]

I think DOB is still a possible candidate, since it is also a phenethylamine, just like BDF and works for a looooooooong time.

 

[????????]

Reading this reminded me that all the blotters I have eaten had a taste, kind of bitter. I have thought it was the ink... now I can't be sure.

Have you tasted ink too (or whatever) or blotters should be completely tasteless???

 

[Forkbender]

the ink and paper might have a taste, sometimes described as 'metallic'. I think it is highly unusual for blotters sold as acid to contain something else. BDF might be easier to get for some people, but it is usually very expensive.

 

[st.bot.32]

I've had slightly "metallic" blotters before, but this really tasted bitter and "chemically". Strikingly so.

Having done a bit more research into the subject of BDF/DOB today, both sound quite similar in taste/length etc, but DOB has been circulating on blotters for decades. I guess at this point no way to know for sure.

I 've had tabs before that took 3-4 hours to kick in, no way to be sure without getting stuff tested. And to me... this trip genuinely felt like an acid trip.. same kinds of visuals, sensory crossover, etc. Just after a bit of research (and this thread) I think I have good reasons to be cautious. My primary concern--wouldn't want somebody unawares to take a heroic dose. Better safe than sorry.

-edit- oh yeah forkbender. good point about the price. these were less than what acid is usually going for these days. And quite potent.

 

[Brugmansia]

SWIM told me that with DOB, his CEV's were extremly wonderful and way more 3D like and flashing.

He also said that with open eyes he felt pretty much capable of doing things in the external world. He took 10 mg's and it wored off after 20 hours.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't mind buying 'fake acid' if there's bromo dragon fly in it or DOB. 8)

 

[Necridous]

A while back I was getting a pretty steady supply of "acid" sold on blotter paper that was quite colorful. I did not sell any, instead it was used solely by myself and two other close friends. Every time we ingested it, we noticed a very pronounced and bitter taste. The comeup was within the normal range, but the strangest part was the duration. Eating 2-3 tabs would result in a normal lasting trip, but eating 4+ would sometimes mean a solid 48 hours worth of fractal patterning and the acidhead somethings is different mentality. After a few of those trips I changed dealers, but ever since I've wondered what the chemical ?I was ingesting really was.

I've done 2cb, and 2ct2 as well as MDMA and such and nothing else has had a comprable taste no matter the method of ingesting.

Its a shame that people pawn off other psychedellic substances as the classics, just to make a buck

 

[grassisgreener]

Nevertheless, I wouldn't mind buying 'fake acid' if there's bromo dragon fly in it or DOB. 8)

I would. I want to know what i'm taking, and when people get away with mislabeling psychoactive chemicals, we could have serious problems.

I wouldn't have a problem taking any of those chemicals, i would just want to be aware of what it is

 

[buffachino]

With things such as these, unless you’re the chef, you can never be sure of what you’re eating. Even veterans can easily mistake the subtleties between phenethylamines and tryptamines.

 

[st.bot.32]

Exactly, and every trip is different to begin with. I still can't say I'm sure either way what it was I took, just that there were enough differences to raise my suspicions.

I wouldn't have a problem taking any of those chemicals, i would just want to be aware of what it is

Same, even if I had been told it was DOB I would have been interested. And like i said, I had an incredibly good trip.

But when I took the suspicious blotter there were friends candyflipping. imagine if someone took shitloads of dob thinking it was acid then took mdma. (overdoses of dob being vasoconstrictive aside), i really don't know what that would do.

 

[ShaktiXTC]

IMO, this mystery substance being discussed is probably bromo-dragonfly. But it could be DOC DOB or DOI. I don't think other DOx's like DOM or DOET have a small enough dose to fit on blotter. I've tried DBF twice and liked the stuff, but I don't think i could confuse it for acid. It just doesn't grab hold of me the same way and pry open my third eye. I'm not sure I can really explain it better. Either way its a decent material despite its bad rep in a lot of places.