Insight on life while on MDMA

[Kai]

Does anyone ever gain any wisdom when dosing MDMA? I do, but the problem is I'm always somewhere not suitable (party/club) to write down what I'm thinking and it usually drifts out of mind once I come down, and to add to that I sort of have a bad short term memory. I was just wondering if any one has had a revelation on MDMA? If so explain.

 

[magickmumu]

I know a lot of people who did and still do mdma at party's.
I don't have the feeling they gain a lot of wisdom from it.

On the other hand. One might get inside and wisdom out of it, if the setting is right.
Personally I don't care about mdma as a psychonautic tool.

 

[spice]

A lot of people don't gain anything from doing *any* of these substances.

I suppose it is somewhat a matter of taste, as well as body chemistry, as well as set and setting.

The phenethylamines have a lot of different things to say than the tryptamines, I think.

What I found to be a really potent and eye-opening combination was MDMA and LSD. In the typical 'dance' setting, you can be mindless and just enjoy it, or you can remove the external stimuli and the information would just flood in.

I huess it's just me, but I have had mystical experiences with high doses of MDMA......but the whole character of the experience, even in the most intense parts, was a lot more relaxing and enjoyable to me. For a long time I loved that feeling of being on the 'Third Rail' with LSD, but it's something I enjoy in moderation these days. (my set and setting = no good right now)

 

[mysticwarrior]

Try some mdma when your alone at home. Sit for a while, think about your life and when you start to come down, write everything down! It did help me, to be less serious and hard for myself. For me, mdma has a great therapeutic value, tough, you have to be careful that you don`t do it to often...

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Try some mdma when your alone at home.

Hmmm, or in a floatation tank? 8)

 

[mrvn]

Or take MDMA, wait 20min, take a shower and lay in bed under the blanket

 

[restin]

I recently "tripped" (suitable word?) on MDMA under the wonderful sky of the Piemont. Out in nature - no human lights, just the stars. A friend and me, we wandered in the forest, deep night, complete darkness in the forest. You come out of the forest and the stars are absolutely amazing. You never see such stars in the City.

And yes, it was absolutely mind-opening.

 

[Ultima]

i find most people who use alot of MDMA are pretty retarded in the head. they only care about how great they feel, and they do really stupid shit. i have never learned anything off MDMA other then its over-rated, and the comedown makes the trip not worth it at all.

 

[Brugmansia]

I have had deepened feelings of love and acceptance, intense euphoria and plugged in inner connection with friends in chill outs. But it has no fundaments, the next I realised the exaggeration in my expressions. Though I liked the lovely relaxation the days after. Nostalgic memories of the youth days it are, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[ochho]

I've only taken MDMA once (apart from the XTC pills) and it was on 4/20 at the Mont-Royal park on a sunny Sunday. I was with friends and there was alot of people (duh 4/20 in montreal!) and Tam-tams.
Well, it was really great..I had a wonderful time, just laying on the grass, eyes closed, listening to the Tam-tams for hours..

I can't really say I've really gotten any insight from it, but one thing is for sure.. those moments of bliss really help relax you and somehow make you want to enjoy life again if you are feeling down. And I didn't even notice any "comedown" like some say..

 

[Kai]

I guess what I learned from MDMA is to be more MDMA-like when sober. (Deep feelings of connection, compassion, and love towards other people.) For example my friend brought up the idea of starting a porn company when we get older, now usually I would say "hell yeah". But instead I exclaimed "Nahhh dude, think about how fucked up the girls are that do porn. Let's become therapist instead and help them out!" Exaggerated, yes. But you get the point, MDMA can teach you how you should act. Not saying 100% though, people will do some DUMB shit on ex.

 

[mysticwarrior]

Hmmm, or in a floatation tank? Cool

Hmm something to think about

i find most people who use alot of MDMA are pretty retarded in the head. they only care about how great they feel, and they do really stupid shit. i have never learned anything off MDMA other then its over-rated, and the comedown makes the trip not worth it at all.

Thank you

I think you over reacting, if you live a happy life. Okay, then mdma maybe don't have to teach you a lot. But i myself where always frustrated. I just couldn't imagine how it would be to feel great. Mdma did change this completly. And no, i don't use it for the kick to feel great, but to point out to what state of mind i want to realise. And now after some great experiments, like sitting in the front of a mirror and telling to my self that i love the guy in front of me.

The come down make the trip for me perfectly and i don't care about only feeling great!

 

[Meduzz]

So far MDMA has been more useful to me than mushrooms or LSD.

The latter tend to give more philosophical existentialistic insights, while on MDMA there were more things that I could directly apply to my own life.
I'm talking about social interaction, empathy, general optimism to life,...
The language of this substance is just soo much clearer and more firm than any other psychedelic I've tried.

No borders, no mental taboos,... You can take an idea and get to the bottom of it without deforming or losing it.

I hope to find some in the near future. Nine months since the last time should give me a decent blast. I'd say I can't wait, but the truth is I can, because it's worth it.

 

[mysticwarrior]

^^^^^ Exactly, that where the right words! ^^^^^

 

[tryptonaut]

So far MDMA has been more useful to me than mushrooms or LSD.

The latter tend to give more philosophical existentialistic insights, while on MDMA there were more things that I could directly apply to my own life.
I'm talking about social interaction, empathy, general optimism to life,...
The language of this substance is just soo much clearer and more firm than any other psychedelic I've tried.

I don't quite agree that mdma was more useful to me than mushrooms or lsd, but it was useful on a different level - the social level.

Mdma showed me that there were mental barriers in my brain that kept me from being the social guy I always wanted to be. It showed me that by being totally open and fearless I could win over people even when I later thought I had been totally embarassing.
I know on one occasion I met a girl accidentally whom I got to know when I was on mdma (and she had been sober!). Instinctively I thought "oh my god, this is so embarrassing", but then she was totally happy to see me, gave me her number and said let's party again some time. This was a total wake up call for me because no matter how cool I had tried to be until then, I had never that easily gotten the phone number of a really hot girl.

There were other occasions when I realized that I being on mdma really made me totally hot. I didn't even have to try to impress the girls, I was just having a great time, and then suddenly realized some girls were totally digging that. Girls I wouldn't have had the guts to talk to when I was sober, but they just came to me and said hi, because I was rocking the party.
It showed me that being totally myself (like I am on mdma) might embarass me in my normal thinking, but it is the right way to live.

 

[restin]

There were other occasions when I realized that I being on mdma really made me totally hot. I didn't even have to try to impress the girls, I was just having a great time, and then suddenly realized some girls were totally digging that. Girls I wouldn't have had the guts to talk to when I was sober, but they just came to me and said hi, because I was rocking the party.

Fascinating. I remember watching a documentary about the correlation between the serotonin level and the level of hierarchy in apes. The result was, that the more serotonin these apes had/were given, the higher they got in the Hierarchy. And MDMA exactly plays with serotonin....fascinating.

Edit, I found the vid: