Insensitive to MDMA?

[ethereal]

Just wondering if anyone has experienced a high tolerance to MDMA from the first dose?

I seem to be mostly insensitive to it. My friends all think this is really odd; they've known people that built a tolerance to it over time, but not anyone that is simply unaffected from the beginning.

I've tried it 3 times now, spaced several weeks apart. I'm 180 cm/80 kg, the same as my boyfriend (only he's 10 cm taller), so he dosed me the same as he does himself. The first time was 150 mg, but taken in combination with liberty caps. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, but then again I'm highly sensitive to hallucinogenics including shrooms, so we thought the effects could have just been lost in everything else going on. The other 2 times, I've taken 200 mg alone, and again, no noticeable effects except thirst and slight relaxation. If anything, I felt more angsty than usual, probably due to the environment (loud dnb).

The quality of the MDMA is not in question, as everyone else has been completely off their heads at a similar (or less) dose. Should I just not bother with further attempts?

 

[Dimebag]

It s funny because I m extremely sensitive to hallucinogenics and I must take less than my friends but I must take more MDMA or pills than them to get the same effect but when I take 200mg I definetly and I m stoned feel something to get really hight I take 300mg or more for a night but again I m stoned with 200mg but not enough for me .

 

[No-Key]

I've only tried it once, with three friends, and we all got our stuff at the same time from the same person.

They both tripped and had an awesome time.
I sat there for three hours wondering if anything was going to happen, and nothing did. It wasn't like I felt "high" and that was it, it was absolutely nothing.

 

[yourownworld]

I've tried extasy a few times and most of the times I took 4-5 pills at once and didn't notice any effect (with different sellers of pills).

they were supposed beeing of a good quality.

 

[Soulcatcher]

The other 2 times, I've taken 200 mg alone, and again, no noticeable effects except thirst and slight relaxation. If anything, I felt more angsty than usual, probably due to the environment (loud dnb).

It can be caused by a lot of things.. But you might have been pushing the feeling away because you were uncomfortable. I don't know how you get to the 200 mg (eyeballed, weighed, ..) but if you just split a bag in a few doses you arent really sure since sellers often put less in it than they say. It will never be 100% pure but more likely about 70-80 for good quality. So say it was 150mg*0,7=105 mg.. Now you might have had a full stomach to slow things down.. If your a big person that also matters (mdma per kg) and maybe a bit insensitive. You were feeling something but pushed it away because you were uncomfortable. Thats still the main thing.

I sat there for three hours wondering if anything was going to happen, and nothing did. It wasn't like I felt "high" and that was it, it was absolutely nothing.

I have tripped with a few people that felt nothing, but after a while (2-3 hours), it always came. This was their first time i believe.. Maybe it has to do something with that.. If you are not really in the mood or you don't know what to feel + low dose or bad quality mdma + slow metabolism this can be the result.

I know some people who seem to have a very slow rate of absorbing mdma into the bloodstream. The come on can be hours for them, and it is also a lot weaker since what has been absorbed in the beginning is already being broken down. I can be completely down by the time they are peaking if we ingested at the same time.

they were supposed beeing of a good quality.

Let me guess, that what the guy you bought them from told you?
Taking 4-5 pills and not noticing anything means its just crap (cafeine or something) and not or very very little mdma..


Everybody is different. I haven't literally mentioned it above, but set and setting are very very important.

 

[ethereal]

It can be caused by a lot of things.. But you might have been pushing the feeling away because you were uncomfortable. I don't know how you get to the 200 mg (eyeballed, weighed, ..) but if you just split a bag in a few doses you arent really sure since sellers often put less in it than they say. It will never be 100% pure but more likely about 70-80 for good quality. So say it was 150mg*0,7=105 mg.. Now you might have had a full stomach to slow things down.. If your a big person that also matters (mdma per kg) and maybe a bit insensitive. You were feeling something but pushed it away because you were uncomfortable. Thats still the main thing.

The 200 mg (crystal form) doses were weighed on digital scales, individually. Since we don't actually buy it (it's synthesized by a chemist friend for personal use not for sales, and he's a bit generous with it), the purity of it is actually very high.

After speaking to him about it, he thinks the lack of effects may be caused by my years on a very high dose of the SNRI venlafaxine/Effexor (450 mg/day) in combination with mirtazapine (an NaSSA). I no longer take Effexor regularly, as I've been trying to go off it for the last year or so, but the withdrawal side effects are so awful that I occasionally take 150 mg (once or twice a week on average) when the symptoms get too bad, otherwise I'm nonfunctional.

I should mention I was on a whole host of antipsychotics (name one, I've probably taken it) for a couple of years for Tourette's, and the venlafaxine was given to counteract negative effects of those. I don't respond to SSRIs or tricyclics at all.

He recommended waiting until I'm completely off the venlafaxine for an extended time before further attempts, but since the long term effects of it aren't well studied and I have negative effects from it even a year after I essentially went off it, mdma may never have the "normal" effect on me. Thanks for the replies, though!

 

[tryptonaut]

t you might have been pushing the feeling away because you were uncomfortable.

I don't think it's possible to "push away the feeling" of a high dose of mdma. It's not like it's a cup of coffee or a sinlge glass of beer...

The first time I took mdma was probably 150mg (a common dose for a good pill in the mid 90ies as far as I know). I took half the pill first, had a beer, felt absolutely nothing for about an hour. I was really disappointed and downed the second half. Half an hour later it hit me like a hammer. It was the best party of my life, ever! I guess I smoked 100 cigarettes that night and did not spend one second without either dancing, or talking non-stop to everyone around. I never found a substitute for mdma that could only approximately bring me into this kind of ecstasy (duh! ). No way you can just push that feeling aside mentally.

I guess a high tolerance for strong SSRI medication could make you somewhat tolerant against mdma's effects. But then again you should feel something from a high dose like 200mg. However I'm not a doctor. All I know is that everything from 100-150mg of mdma for me turns every party into the best party in the world, and I'm being the king of the party

 

[Soulcatcher]

read the part after that too

 

[thepschedelicpaintbrush]

The first time I tried ecstasy it didn't hit me until just before everyone else was coming down. The entire time I wasn't rolling, everyone told me I was thinking about it too much. They said I was just bringing myself down, but I wasn't. I was partying and having fun, and I didn't let myself get disappointed with the fact that it was having no effect on me. Whenever someone would come up to me all excited and ask if I was rolling yet I'd simply laugh and shake my head and they'd say "You're thinking about it too much" to which I would reply, "No, I'm not." because I wasn't. I was just there to have fun. It did hit me though, as soon as my favorite techno song came on in the car when I went with my buddies to pick up some water for everyone. It hit me like a truck and a partied until well after the sun came up.
A similar experience I had was the first time I tried acid. I knew next to nothing about the drug and some friends of mine came over with a few hits. They recommended that my girlfriend and I split one (yes, I know now that this is retarded unless it's some potent shit) everyone tripped a little except for me. The entire night I expected it to come, and I waited patiently while everyone else kept badgering me saying that either I was thinking about it too much or that I was lying like some fiend trying to get a higher dose (this wasn't stated but it was obviously implied by one person). The acid never hit me. It didn't help that we smoked a ridiculous amount of weed that night, if I even felt the beginning effects of the acid I wouldn't have known because I was so stoned, but I didn't reach any of the effects they were experiencing and with the experience I've gained I can honestly say it did not hit me. I was just stoned.

I think this is valid here. Especially in reply to the post about "pushing away the feeling". You can't fight these chemicals using merely your subconscious mind. The reactions the human body has to these drugs are too powerful to be stopped by an anxiety that (in my case) never even existed. In my case I was extremely annoyed when everyone I knew kept telling me I was preventing my high because of the way I was thinking, as if they knew what I was thinking, and if this is common with some people then I think it could be good for them to know that it's more annoying to listen to everyone tell you such a thing than it is to experience the natural resistance, slow reaction, or low quality hit that results in the lack of or delay of the desired effect.
In reply to the original posters resistance, all I can say is tough luck. I "kind of" know what it's like to resist things. In my case I've ended up underdosing quite a few times and just not reaching the same level that my friends reached or not getting anything at all. It's easy to live with, it just ends up being a waste of money sometimes.

 

[Oracle]

I know how you feel. I cant seem to trip on shrooms im sensitive to weed dxm knocks me out and mdma works normally. Ive never had a hallucination on drugs yet but I hope that changes when I try salvia and when all else fails acid.