I need some experienced psychonauts to comment on this mix

[Rymmen]

Okay, so I'm dreaming of mixing a classic psychedelic, disassociative, salvia and muscimol.

Does anyone have any suggestions for safety, dose and which particular psychoactive to use?

I'm thinking K for disassociative, given that it causes less respiratory depression than DXM, but I don't know what balance to give that and muscimol for safety concerns. Also, for the classic psychedelic, I'm thinking LSD, because I doubt I'd be able to hold my guts for Ayahuasca or be able to smoke DMT.

This plan is far into the future, probably by the end of this year, but I reckon I should start researching now.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

You can consult the Essential Psychedelic Guide by D.M.Turner. Be careful though.

 

[JustinNed]

No idea, but let us know how the end result works out

 

[Rymmen]

I can find no report of mixing high dose GABA1 agonists and NMDA antagonists. However, the times when these sort of things do happen, there tends to be toxicity, as we can see with alcohol, barbituates or benzos. I'm just wondering, given the relative non-toxicity of K/DXM and muscimol, would that still happen?

Is the toxicity because of an overload on the brain, or because the substance is toxic to the body?

Goddamnit, I don't want to be the first to find out >>;;

 

[sidefx]

sounds like your not quite sure which to mix i get liquid ktamine and theres not really a better mix to send u to the stars than a good dose of acid and a good helping of K, i'm experienced and this usually always gets me into a Looop.
i love k and i love lsd, i wanna try crystal lsd

 

[tryptonaut]

Okay, so I'm dreaming of mixing a classic psychedelic, disassociative, salvia and muscimol.

Have you tried a mix of two of the mentioned drugs before? I wouldn't mix four kinds of different psychedelics before having mixed two of each first. Then three, then four.
This is not only for safety reasons, but also for research reasons. If you mix all four but never had a combination of only two of the components, you can't say in the end if, let's say for example the muscimol didn't add anything to a mix of ketamine and psilocybin. Add more components one by one for a thorough research - other than that, happy researching!

 

[GOD]

I totaly agree with Tryptonaut . First get experience with all four ingredients seperately and then try experimenting with pairs . When you have done that you could try all the combinations of three parts together . Its better to be very carefull , you dont know how you will react to those chemicals when you mix them , you only have one life . DMTurner is very good to read , but remember he is dead , i think he died by drowning in his pool on ketamine . = We dont want to wake up one morning and find you in the pool , face down !!!! I always learned that one should not mix things . Mixing things is always a gamble , its the same as trying to make clear predictions about the results of mixing 4 variables = Imposible , you dont know whats going to come out , and potentialy very dangerous .

But ........... Whats the idea in your head , what do you want to create , why are you thinking about doing that ?????

 

[WetStaples]

And in case you need some math help:

C(4, 1) + C(4, 2) + C(4, 3) + C(4, 4)
4 + 6 + 4 + 1

15 trips!

(That's what we're learning in math class, and I must say this was quite an interesting application of it!)

 

[Rymmen]

I totaly agree with Tryptonaut . First get experience with all four ingredients seperately and then try experimenting with pairs . When you have done that you could try all the combinations of three parts together . Its better to be very carefull , you dont know how you will react to those chemicals when you mix them , you only have one life . DMTurner is very good to read , but remember he is dead , i think he died by drowning in his pool on ketamine . = We dont want to wake up one morning and find you in the pool , face down !!!! I always learned that one should not mix things . Mixing things is always a gamble , its the same as trying to make clear predictions about the results of mixing 4 variables = Imposible , you dont know whats going to come out , and potentialy very dangerous .

But ........... Whats the idea in your head , what do you want to create , why are you thinking about doing that ?????

I'm experienced with all of them individually except muscimol, but that should change soon enough. I've also mixed 4th plateau DXM and huge amount of acid.

I was clearly going to mix and match in couples then triples before doing the big mix (though I still don't know about mixing disassociative and muscimol).

I want to achieve the most intense psychedelic experience possible. =)

 

[Forkbender]

I want to achieve the most intense psychedelic experience possible. =)

My guess is that set/setting are more important in this one. Try 10 grams of shrooms (dried, of course) in silent darkness and smoke some DMT at the peak (<- should do the trick).

 

[Dantediv86]

definetly i aggree with you man
i mean
i'm experience with both muscimol and salvia
but i never thought of mixing them (hummm....)
however according to James Arthur the "Soma" brew (upon wich apparently christianity is based...and is supposed to shoot you up to Nirvana and over) includes psylocibin mushrooms, muscimol, DMT, opium and cannabinoids.

but it should be interesting to ingest Amanita followed by the mushrooms as soon as effects start to be felt, then ingest the Ketamine and sublingually assume a tincture of salvia.
i know for sure that shrooms and amanita have no real danger to them the only unknown would be the chemistry between the ketamine (of wich i must say i know nothing) and the rest of the chemicals
however
i strongly advise you not to mix substances of wich you don't know the reaction and interaction once inside our body...

 

[Brugmansia]

Whatever you choose, let us know how it went.

 

[Dantediv86]

Amen