how to consume Amanita?

[Silence_Inc]

i heard all kinds of preparation ways - but please - someone that knows how to ... and what to pay attention to ... please give me the true and only way to use the fly agaric ... .

tnx, n.

 

[tryptonaut]

There's a recipe on
http://www.jamesarthur.net/recipe.html

I think that guy knows a lot about Amanitas but his recipe is not for the weak-at-heart. What he proposes is a total ego-death-and-being-reborn-dose

 

[GerbyQ]

Wow!
I’ve red the articles on james Arthur his website. Very kewl.
I’m starting to find out the roll of the mushroom in human history but never heard this specific roll of the Amanita muscaria.
And the experience sounds also very interesting to say the least, also scary. But hey

 

[speedball]

Make some tea or an extraction to smoke it then.

 

[CryingOutLoud]

-edit

 

[speedball]

I wouldn't drink piss if you paid me a thousand dollars. A million perhaps, yes... but not a thousand... :upsidedown:

 

[Viaticus]

Actually, urine is one of the "purest" things coming out of your body so it is safe to drink it. Some even say that it has beneficial effects on one's health. I'm not saying that the idea of drinking my urine seems that fascinating, but just give me a thousand dollars and we'll see...

In Lapland (and Siberia I think) they fed A. Muscaria to reindeers and then collected their urine for drinking, that way getting rid of the "bad stuff".

 

[speedball]

Actually, urine is one of the "purest" things coming out of your body so it is safe to drink it. Some even say that it has beneficial effects on one's health.

Urine is a waste product of your body, it contains any toxic substances your body wanted to get rid of.

 

[CryingOutLoud]

From wikipedia: "Although urine is commonly believed to be 'dirty' this is not actually the case. In cases of kidney or urinary tract infection (UTI) the urine will contain bacteria, but otherwise urine is virtually sterile and nearly odorless when it leaves the body." :smirk:

Oh and this too: "In Siberia, to communicate with the spirits, the Koryak people drank the urine of another who has consumed fly agaric (an entheogenic, and occasionally fatally poisonous, mushroom), or of one who has in turn drunk urine of like source. Sometimes, the urine of reindeer that had eaten fly agaric would even be drunk. The potency of the mushroom does not decrease significantly until around the seventh drinker, because the muscimol from fly agaric is essentially unaltered after being secreted from the kidneys. Not only does this conserve the mushrooms, but it also eliminates unpleasant side-effects caused by muscarine, which does not pass on through urine. Likewise, reindeer licked the ground where there is urine containing fly agaric from the religious ritual."

So you can reuse the urine like 7 times. :alc:

 

[speedball]

True, urine is sterile when it comes out (was once used as an anti-sceptic in WW1). Urine is full of the by products of chemical reactions in your body, the metabolites of chemicals your liver has destoyed.

Any chemical that is in your blood that shouldn't be is broken down (by various organs) and put into your urine by the kidneys. The kidneys don't "produce" these products, they syphen them out of the blood.

You can only survive by drinking your own urine for a day or two. After that the concentration of various chemicals is so high it will kill you.

Your body is trying to get rid of these things for a reason, not because they happen to pass through the kidneys (everything must pass through the kidneys).

 

[tryptonaut]

Likewise, reindeer licked the ground where there is urine containing fly agaric from the religious ritual."

That's very interesting! Psychonautic reindeers... no wonder they can pull Santa's carriage through the skies

 

[Viaticus]

Urine is a waste product of your body, it contains any toxic substances your body wanted to get rid of.

As already mentioned above, urine is not under normal conditions toxic. So drinking your own urine as a method of reusing muscimol doesn't seem to have any great negative aspects.

There is a lot of information about "urine therapy" and how it can improve your health out there, but I've never dwelled in to that any further. In case someone is interested, google seems to provide a hefty amount of links about the subject.

 

[speedball]

I don't know where you got the idea urine was not full of bad chemicals, its something taught at pre-GCSE level science.

 

[Viaticus]

I don't know where you got the idea urine was not full of bad chemicals, its something taught at pre-GCSE level science.

Perhaps from your own post where you claimed urine to contain toxins? And also, take a chill pill, this ain't a contenst of "who's on first" of psychonauts. Or for pete's sake, I hope it ain't. For I'm looking for some constructive conversation, not finding out who can flip through their encyclopedia fastest. :truce:

 

[Scinet]

drinking your own urine ... doesn't seem to have any great negative aspects.

Except that you're drinking your own urine perhaps :grin:

So as not to go completely off topic, the toxicity of urine appears to be directly related to what you consume. Knowing that still doesn't make me want to try this though, but if anybody wants to chug a tall one of it int: after muscariating, do tell what happened.

 

[CryingOutLoud]

If I _had_ to drink my urine, I really would want it to be cold :smirk: not warm. If you are going to drink it, you should beer bong it so you wouldnt taste it so much.

 

[tryptonaut]

I don't know where you got the idea urine was not full of bad chemicals, its something taught at pre-GCSE level science.

Some people actually drink a cup of their own urine every morning and they claim it's very healthy (otherwise they wouldn't do it I guess).

It isn't a pleasant thought to drink urine (let alone someone else's... yuck...). However, I am not ashamed to say that I have tasted my urine when I was a little boy (it's in the nature of humans to be curious about everything, right?).

Whatever, you can never deny the age-old knowledge of shamans when it is about the most effective way to consume entheogenic substances!