Hostile Entities?

[SeekingLucidity]

Hi, this is my first post. For several years I've had occasional dreams where I wake up but am still asleep (hypnopompic, whatever you want to call it) where I perceive I am being physically attacked by someone. I then wake up, realize there was no one there and that I'd been shouting and knocking things about. My question is: is this sort of thing just a sleep/psychological disorder? Do any of you believe that there are actual hostile, malevolent, or prankster beings out there that can reach us in this hypnopompic state? I did have some experiences with lucid dreaming as a teenager. After reading The Art of Dreaming by Castenada, I would chant "I will have a lucid dream" repeatedly and with conviction as I fell asleep, and a couple of times it worked. They didn't last long before before I let excitement get the best of me and my "attention" faltered. Anyway, I've sometimes wondered if trying to access that part of my mind didn't open things up for this sort of negative result. But, that's just idle speculation. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

 

[IJesusChrist]

I think dreams are direct communication from our silent subconscious to our conscious, in a very elegant dance of images and feelings.

I think that you have something important to figure out.

 

[ophiuchus]

no, definitely not a disorder. i've been lucid many times, including recently and i still have similar dreams. i wouldn't perceive them as particularly negative, the mind sometimes gets carried away in hypothetical scenarios. this happens while awake as well as asleep. every time you find yourself running a big hypothetical scenario in your head just take a step back, and let it go. there's no point. practice will increase the frequency that you'll remember to do this, which should help you with you're negative dreams...

hope things work out for you

 

[crouchtig]

every time you find yourself running a big hypothetical scenario in your head just take a step back, and let it go. there's no point. practice will increase the frequency that you'll remember to do this, which should help you with you're negative dreams...

What you're essentially saying is that there is an ideal type of mindset which is equally good for real life, dreams, and tripping, and that practicing this kind of thinking in waking life helps us to apply it in dreams, and practicing it in dreams helps us to apply it in waking life.

I'm no expert but this sounds like really excellent advice.

 

[Illegalsmile]

well i was watching a show investigating people who claim theyve been abducted by aliens in their sleep.they would describe waking up not being able to move and sensing entities around them. one of the theories behind it was sleep paralysis, i think its what emile was talking about.the way i understood it, you actually wake up, even though your head is still dreaming. this results in very vivid hallucinations (cause youre tripping on dmt when you dream) except this time youre dream is taking place in the real world so it feels real. the body is still asleep so you cant move. since you cant move youre more likely to panic and dream of something dangerous holding you down like aliens or demons. ive never had this happen to me so im just saying what i understand about this topic.

also, shamans and people who use dmt say that you can communicate with beings while under the influence of dmt like spirits or ghosts and thats why people sometimes talk to their dead relatives in their dreams. so maybe theres some truth to that experience

 

[ophiuchus]

well, the fact that one is tripping on dmt while asleep is still largely speculation and very much still open to debate/testing... regardless though, dmt is present in the body at all times, so i do not mean to discredit any of your advice.

i should point out also (to aemillius) that (as far as i can tell) he did not mean that his negative entity encounters were a part of the same experiences that he had with lucid dreaming as a teenager, they are separate instances, the negative ones having occurred after the lucid experiences.

that being said, it's worth noting, that as with nearly all other things, practicing something, over and over again, without making it a "permanent habit", a way of life, will only make one skilled at the thing they practice, for as long as they practice it. if the practice never becomes fully integrated into the persons life, then, along with the vanishing of the practice, the skills vanish too. that is to say, one may be able to clear ones mind, but if ones mind can only be clear as a means to an end, then this will only ever be a fleeting moment. the way to remain lucid comes in accepting the now, not desiring to be in the past or future. fully accepting the fullness that the universe has to offer. surrendering to the now, which is all that there is.