Hippyflipping

[Psychoid]

A few days ago I tried hippyflipping for the second time in my life... I proceeded the same way that last time, except I doubled the doses:

I drank my tea (containing ~1.5g dried), immediately after I dropped 2 ecstasy pills and then went in my car to smoke some hash (I didn't drive, I just can't smoke in my parents' house). I didn't even have time to finish smoking that the shrooms were already kicking in strongly, and so I decided to go back in my house before it gets too intense. I went in my bed and meditated while it was coming up. And then it really started... this really was the most visual experience of my life, I was seeing the same things with my eyes opened or closed, plenty of hallucinations, colours, pictures... I was intense, really intense... almost too intense. In fact again I had the feeling that I was gonna die, but this time, as I had doubled the doses, it was worse (but not too bad because I was in a better setting (first time I was walking outside in the streets)). I thought of serotonin syndrome, and thought maybe it was what was happening to me at this time. The effect was so intense I felt I couldn't have gotten out of my bed. I started worrying that my parents would find me dead in my bed the day after. I decided all I could do was enjoy the experience the most possible and hope I'll survive. I survived 8) Strangely enough the big buzz lasted like 1 hours, and then after I had only minor visuals and pretty much only felt the E. After 3 hours I felt almost sober, although I couldn't sleep, even after smoking more hash.

I think there really is something special with this combination... But before experimenting more with it I want to be sure it is safe, cause both times I was convinced I was on the edge of dying. I also would like to read some comments and experiences from people ho have experience with this combination.

Thanks for sharing you knowledge!

P&L

 

[Subtle_Nod]

A few days ago I tried hippyflipping for the second time in my life... I proceeded the same way that last time, except I doubled the doses:

I drank my tea (containing ~1.5g dried), immediately after I dropped 2 ecstasy pills and then went in my car to smoke some hash (I didn't drive, I just can't smoke in my parents' house). I didn't even have time to finish smoking that the shrooms were already kicking in strongly, and so I decided to go back in my house before it gets too intense. I went in my bed and meditated while it was coming up. And then it really started... this really was the most visual experience of my life, I was seeing the same things with my eyes opened or closed, plenty of hallucinations, colours, pictures... I was intense, really intense... almost too intense. In fact again I had the feeling that I was gonna die, but this time, as I had doubled the doses, it was worse (but not too bad because I was in a better setting (first time I was walking outside in the streets)). I thought of serotonin syndrome, and thought maybe it was what was happening to me at this time. The effect was so intense I felt I couldn't have gotten out of my bed. I started worrying that my parents would find me dead in my bed the day after. I decided all I could do was enjoy the experience the most possible and hope I'll survive. I survived 8) Strangely enough the big buzz lasted like 1 hours, and then after I had only minor visuals and pretty much only felt the E. After 3 hours I felt almost sober, although I couldn't sleep, even after smoking more hash.

I think there really is something special with this combination... But before experimenting more with it I want to be sure it is safe, cause both times I was convinced I was on the edge of dying. I also would like to read some comments and experiences from people ho have experience with this combination.

Thanks for sharing you knowledge!

P&L

I thought hippy flipping was going to be like cow tipping.

 

[Forkbender]

Thanks for sharing.

I think this is a great combination if done properly. Maybe you should try taking just one pill, waiting for it to come up for half an hour, fortyfive minutes, and then drink your mushroom tea. I would also advice you to double the dose of mushrooms, because that's the magical part of the journey, not the mdma. This way you'll probably have a longer and more easy trip.

As to the fear: love it.

 

[????????]

You already know that you won't die from it, if you've been to the edge why haven't you jumped?

 

[druglessdouglas]

its much easier ifr you take the mdma first and wait till you come up, sort of a premedication. youll get almost no stress symptoms whereas taking them both together is a lot for your mind to handle. its an excellent combination if done right. give yourself an hour on the e before taking your tea then you will be ready.

if you aint sure take lots moore aranoid:

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I guess it's a matter of purpose whether you up the mushrooms or up the Adam. I would like to try both combinations. As far as solo trips are concerned, the low dose Adam, high dose shrooms variety sounds very inviting. As far as having the experience in the company of someone you want to connect with (mentally, emotionally, physically), the high dose Adam, low dose shrooms might be more suitable.

By the way, does anyone have experience or know accounts of people having ingested say 120 mg MDMA followed an hour later by 5 grams of dried mushrooms?

 

[GOD]

Raise the dose of both of them............

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I thought about that. Word of caution though: you really must assure you do drink a sufficient amount of water during such an experience. A sitter would be quite important for such experiments, and one must carefully take the setting into account as well.

 

[GOD]

Last time i went to VooV i had 2 grams of X and kept having a last nose before i went to the dance floor that i never got there . Spent the whole night having last noses and didnt drink anything . Dick shrinked , couldnt piss , body kept making piss = BIG pain . Had to go to hospital where thzey shoved a tube up it and 1.5 liters came out . All the doctors were amazed and laughed their balls off . Now i know what it must feel like to be pregnant and have birth pains..........

Drink . Drink . Drink weather you feel like it or not .

 

[Psychoid]

Thanks for all your answers!!!

So, mixing shrooms and MDMA isn't dangerous, no matter the dosages?

Why do you all say to take the MDMA first and then the mushrooms? Until now I always took them both at the same time, which may explain the effects getting too intense and the feeling that my brain is "overheating".

In my point of view, the best way to take it would be to take the shrooms, and once you peaked take the E... You see, I'm not mixing them to reduce the anxiety caused by the mushrooms, only to me it seems that mushrooms and MDMA have different effects which kind of complete each other. If I take the E first chances are I am going to be coming down from the E before the mushrooms peaked, which is bad. I want to have them both peaked at the same time. As the mushroom peak lasts much longer than the E peak, I think it would be better to take the shrooms first...

Isn't there anyone here who has lots of experience with hippyflipping that could tell me more?

 

[GOD]

Taking the X first is not nesecerely to stop a person gettig scared . It puts you in a good space and relaxes you before you take the mushrooms . If you take the X 1/2 - 3/4 an hour before the mushrooms you will be up on the X when the mushrooms start . The peak of a mushroom trip isnt usualy much more than an hour . = 10 - 45 mins going up 1 - 1.5 hours peak and the rest slowly coming down .

Why not try it both ways and tell us what it was like and wich you prefer ?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

The therapeutic sessions MDMA will help you to first focus on, and accept, the issues of your personal life, and when you have done that to some extent, you are a bit more ready for the psychedelic cosmic adventure. MDMA gives a certain clarity (emotionally and socially) that should be appreciated in its own right, though starting a mushroom midway is both pleasant and creates an optimal mindset for enthusiastically diving into the peak experience.

As I said, never done it yet, but I can imagine it's something like that. :wink:

 

[Psychoid]

Why not try it both ways and tell us what it was like and wich you prefer ?

That's what I'm gonna do. I'll give you feedbacks of my experience, but it's gonna take long as I'm not tripping every week.

 

[Forkbender]

Taking X first will make you relaxed, making it easier to launch yourself into mushroomspace, which makes you go higher on a lesser dose. Taking X after the shrooms is 'flattening' the trip from what I've heard from people who tried it. (Same holds for x+acid). My personal advice, again, is to take a small to medium amount of MDMA (60-120mg) so the effects of the shrooms can take over and you don't have any physical discomfort (jawlock/stomachache/dickshrinkage/etc.). The therapeutic part of MDMA isn't really what I have encountered yet on this combination. It is more the relaxation (isn't it the same thing in the end?) that puts you in the right mood to lift off.

 

[druglessdouglas]

i agree with fork and god. in my experience the E then mushrooms seems to produce the most pleasant combination. you still get the full mushroom experience but are already on your way from the E. ive done both E>mushies and mushies>E. the later can be more difficult on the come up but the end result is the same. if you can afford it take more e a couple of hours after you peak and more mushrooms if you want to get more of mushroom effect. you can adjust it at any time during the trip. i (as always) suggest you use it as an opportunity to take more mushrooms than usual you will enjoy the experience far more on the combination. then take more e before coming down. a typical hippyflip for me goes like this. take 2 E's(~120mg) an hour later take 10-20g dried mushrooms. 3 hours later ~120mg E and 3 hours after that take ~120mg more E. i will repeat this with more mushrooms/E for 2-3 days very happily, longer if i can.
i have friends who would NEVER take mushrooms without also taking E as they cannot "handle" mushrooms only. they love the combination.

a word of warning about drinking water. if you arent dancing and sweating dont drink any more water than you would normally. think about how much you usually drink and if you are thirsty sip water because the MDMA stimulates
the production of anti diuretic hormone and you will not pee as much as normal. if you cant pee try a cup of coffee as it may help you pee

 

[Forkbender]

^Don't you get a nasty hangover from the E by using so much?

 

[druglessdouglas]

no. im a bit slow 2 days later but thats a small price. im just a good consumer. its what the government would want. a couple of years back id take a lot more and 1/4oz of coke too. i guess ive a strong constitution. i also believe much of the "down" is due to the fact that is what you expect. that goes for all drugs imo